Social Justice Warriors Thread

[SuburbanFarmer]

That's not really how it works. The Church has nothing to do with ethno-states, but that doesn't mean Christianity doesn't support ethno-centrism. It's only very recently that this pozzed multicultural mindset has infiltrated the Church. Traditionally (and I mean here for almost 2,000 years), the Church tried to foster ethnic differences and cultivate unique cultures withing various nations.

It's a mistake to confuse the universalism of the Church with nationalism at the state level. It's a really big mistake, actually.

Once this ridiculous multicult implodes under it's own contradiction and sectarian violence, we will just go back to the way things always were. Multiculturalism obviously cannot persist.

LMFAO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBABAY

The New World, the Celts, Aborigines, and Africans were encouraged to retain their ethnic identities by the church.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a mistake to confuse the universalism of the Church with nationalism at the state level. It's a really big mistake, actually.

Huh...

Did I confuse these things?

If so, how?

Well, you implied that our civilization's conversion to Christianity brought about some change between ethno-centrism to multi-culturalism because Christianity is a universal religion. But that's not really the case. The Church is universal, but that doesn't mean it supports multi-cultural societies but not ethno-centric societies. It doesn't really care either way, honestly. By the time Europeans converted en masse to Christianity, the empire was already multicultural for all intents and purposes, and was collapsing because of it. Indeed, within about four or five centuries, all of Western Europe returned to ethno-centrism and the Church was perfectly fine with that. We were ethno-centric nations until the 20th century. Now we are starting to collapse in the same way the classical empire fell apart.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the religion other than the fact that, in some countries (looking at you US bishops), the Church hierarchy is keen to drown out an entire nation of people because they think it will result in more Catholics (and more funds).

Your analysis would apply better towards Islam. Islam truly is designed for a multicultural society (albeit one probably ruled over by Arabs) by design since Islam is not simply a religion but also a political and legal system all integrated into a holistic worldview (which is why it does not belong in the West anywhere).

[Speaker to Animals]

That's not really how it works. The Church has nothing to do with ethno-states, but that doesn't mean Christianity doesn't support ethno-centrism. It's only very recently that this pozzed multicultural mindset has infiltrated the Church. Traditionally (and I mean here for almost 2,000 years), the Church tried to foster ethnic differences and cultivate unique cultures withing various nations.

It's a mistake to confuse the universalism of the Church with nationalism at the state level. It's a really big mistake, actually.

Once this ridiculous multicult implodes under it's own contradiction and sectarian violence, we will just go back to the way things always were. Multiculturalism obviously cannot persist.

LMFAO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBABAY

The New World and Africa were encouraged to retain their ethnic identities by the church.

We just had Aztec dancers celebrate the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the 12th. Yeah, the Church encourages national identities and culture.

[SuburbanFarmer]

That's not really how it works. The Church has nothing to do with ethno-states, but that doesn't mean Christianity doesn't support ethno-centrism. It's only very recently that this pozzed multicultural mindset has infiltrated the Church. Traditionally (and I mean here for almost 2,000 years), the Church tried to foster ethnic differences and cultivate unique cultures withing various nations.

It's a mistake to confuse the universalism of the Church with nationalism at the state level. It's a really big mistake, actually.

Once this ridiculous multicult implodes under it's own contradiction and sectarian violence, we will just go back to the way things always were. Multiculturalism obviously cannot persist.

LMFAO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBABAY

The New World and Africa were encouraged to retain their ethnic identities by the church.

We just had Aztec dancers celebrate the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the 12th. Yeah, the Church encourages national identities and culture.

This is the dumbest thing I've seen on the MHF to date. Record-breaking.

[Speaker to Animals]

LMFAO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBABAY

The New World and Africa were encouraged to retain their ethnic identities by the church.

We just had Aztec dancers celebrate the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the 12th. Yeah, the Church encourages national identities and culture.

This is the dumbest thing I've seen on the MHF to date. Record-breaking.

???

You claimed the Church discourages national identities. I showed you an example of how it actually does encourage unique national identities. Indeed, every Catholic nation has it's own unique identity, their own feasts, and their cultures are defended. It's hard to see in our own culture because Catholic culture in England was culturally genocided in 1600s. In the general sense, it's difficult to see because you are blind to your own culture.

You want to believe that all we do is exterminate everybody in the world because you hate your own people, and your self-loathing miscolors your perception of history and, indeed, reality itself.

This anti-white, anti-western mindset has infected our churches too. That's why our bishops and even Protestant leaders are constantly encouraging us to murder our nation and culture for the sake of foreigners. Yet religious leaders in those nations fiercely defend national identities. You're coming at this completely backwards.

[DrYouth]

Your analysis would apply better towards Islam. Islam truly is designed for a multicultural society (albeit one probably ruled over by Arabs) by design since Islam is not simply a religion but also a political and legal system all integrated into a holistic worldview (which is why it does not belong in the West anywhere).

Islam was more tolerant of other religions being practiced within their empire.
Islam during certain incarnations of it's social structure tolerated Jews and Christians and was less focussed on converting them.

Christians believed to a greater extent in converting all the ethnic groups it assimilated.
It felt strongly about wiping out pagan traditions, or perceived heresies, wanting to assimilate it's converts to the True Faith.
So indigenous and Africans were welcome in the fold once they accepted the Lord Jesus as their saviour.

[SuburbanFarmer]

We just had Aztec dancers celebrate the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the 12th. Yeah, the Church encourages national identities and culture.

This is the dumbest thing I've seen on the MHF to date. Record-breaking.

???

You claimed the Church discourages national identities. I showed you an example of how it actually does encourage unique national identities. Indeed, every Catholic nation has it's own unique identity, their own feasts, and their cultures are defended. It's hard to see in our own culture because Catholic culture in England was culturally genocided in 1600s. In the general sense, it's difficult to see because you are blind to your own culture.

You want to believe that all we do is exterminate everybody in the world because you hate your own people, and your self-loathing miscolors your perception of history and, indeed, reality itself.

You're actually doubling-down on this? Seriously?

[Speaker to Animals]

Your analysis would apply better towards Islam. Islam truly is designed for a multicultural society (albeit one probably ruled over by Arabs) by design since Islam is not simply a religion but also a political and legal system all integrated into a holistic worldview (which is why it does not belong in the West anywhere).

Islam was more tolerant of other religions being practiced within their empire.
Islam during certain incarnations of it's social structure tolerated Jews and Christians and was less focussed on converting them.

Christians believed to a greater extent in converting all the ethnic groups it assimilated.
It felt strongly about wiping out pagan traditions, or perceived heresies, wanting to assimilate it's converts to the True Faith.
So indigenous and Africans were welcome in the fold once they accepted the Lord Jesus as their saviour.

There again, you are not exactly correct. Islam only "tolerated" Christianity and Judaism to a limited extent. Muslims exterminated pagans. Christians just tried to convert them. But even where Muslims allegedly tolerated Christians and Jews, it wasn't really toleration at all but a form of enslavement.

The difference here is that, in Islam, extermination and enslavement of non-Muslims is baked into the cake. For us, in our history, it was more of a historical phenomenon that was not inherent to the religion. To wit: it doesn't matter how long you allow Islam to fester. It's never going to become like us in terms of human rights because their religion forbids it. Their religion literally commands them to make war upon us and exterminate or enslave us. Islam means submission. Muslims believe we must submit to Islam as slaves or converts. Full stop. That's why they don't belong here.

[Speaker to Animals]

This is the dumbest thing I've seen on the MHF to date. Record-breaking.

???

You claimed the Church discourages national identities. I showed you an example of how it actually does encourage unique national identities. Indeed, every Catholic nation has it's own unique identity, their own feasts, and their cultures are defended. It's hard to see in our own culture because Catholic culture in England was culturally genocided in 1600s. In the general sense, it's difficult to see because you are blind to your own culture.

You want to believe that all we do is exterminate everybody in the world because you hate your own people, and your self-loathing miscolors your perception of history and, indeed, reality itself.

You're actually doubling-down on this? Seriously?

I guess you can try to make an argument here. I am not sure what I am supposed to respond to other than your ignorant incredulousness. Argument from incredulity is still a fallacy..

[SuburbanFarmer]

Your analysis would apply better towards Islam. Islam truly is designed for a multicultural society (albeit one probably ruled over by Arabs) by design since Islam is not simply a religion but also a political and legal system all integrated into a holistic worldview (which is why it does not belong in the West anywhere).

Islam was more tolerant of other religions being practiced within their empire.
Islam during certain incarnations of it's social structure tolerated Jews and Christians and was less focussed on converting them.

Christians believed to a greater extent in converting all the ethnic groups it assimilated.
It felt strongly about wiping out pagan traditions, or perceived heresies, wanting to assimilate it's converts to the True Faith.
So indigenous and Africans were welcome in the fold once they accepted the Lord Jesus as their saviour.

There again, you are not exactly correct. Islam only "tolerated" Christianity and Judaism to a limited extent. Muslims exterminated pagans. Christians just tried to convert them. But even where Muslims allegedly tolerated Christians and Jews, it wasn't really toleration at all but a form of enslavement.

The difference here is that, in Islam, extermination and enslavement of non-Muslims is baked into the cake. For us, in our history, it was more of a historical phenomenon that was not inherent to the religion. To wit: it doesn't matter how long you allow Islam to fester. It's never going to become like us in terms of human rights because their religion forbids it. Their religion literally commands them to make war upon us and exterminate or enslave us. Islam means submission. Muslims believe we must submit to Islam as slaves or converts. Full stop. That's why they don't belong here.

Yeah, but Hillary...