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[Smitty-48]

I think we're all up to speed on that point.

I just like the ring of, "The Imperial War."

Anyone else got any examples of so many empires going to war at once?

Maybe Napoleon, maybe.

Napoleonic is more of a series of wars, it was never everybody all at once, it was Napoleon vs the British, with the British basically funding a series of counter Napoleon campaigns, Napoleon would win, then the British would throw more money at it to raise another coalition against him.

[nmoore63]

7 years War
War of Spanish secession
War of Austrian succession
30 years war
Ww1
Ww2
Napoleonic Wars

[Smitty-48]

The breakout of the First World War is all related to the Franco-Prussian War 1870, that was the sea change, because that was the rapid mobilization war, the key element of the Franco-Prussian War was the speed of it, no war had ever kicked off, gone down, and been resolved, so quickly, it was lightning war, it was the blitzkrieg of the day, and that is why everybody went to this posture of "hair trigger alert", and that is why there was no time to call the First World War off before it blew up out of control, again, like a slow motion nuclear war.

No war had ever gone down like the Franco-Prussian War before, the First World War was just the Franco-Prussian War on steroids until it stabilized into the stalemate on the Western Front.

[nmoore63]

I think we're all up to speed on that point.

I just like the ring of, "The Imperial War."

Anyone else got any examples of so many empires going to war at once?

Maybe Napoleon, maybe.

Napoleonic is more of a series of wars, it was never everybody all at once, it was Napoleon vs the British, with the British basically funding a series of counter Napoleon campaigns, Napoleon would win, then the British would throw more money at it to raise another coalition against him.

The second and fourth coalitions were all but one.
That’s like saying the world wars don’t count cause no spain

[Smitty-48]

I think we're all up to speed on that point.

I just like the ring of, "The Imperial War."

Anyone else got any examples of so many empires going to war at once?

Maybe Napoleon, maybe.

Napoleonic is more of a series of wars, it was never everybody all at once, it was Napoleon vs the British, with the British basically funding a series of counter Napoleon campaigns, Napoleon would win, then the British would throw more money at it to raise another coalition against him.

The second and fourth coalitions were all but one.
That’s like saying the world wars don’t count cause no spain

I don't know what you're really arguing, the Napoleonic Wars were not really like the First World War at all, but if you want to say that they was, whatever, it's not really worth arguing about. /shrugs

[nmoore63]

As to ww1 iy was going to happen. You can make scenarios where it didn’t happen then but that was how the Victorian era was going to end. No way they stop turning out teddy Roosevelt’s until it crashes.

[Smitty-48]

All Hegemons have an arc, but to say that a war of British hegemonic succession was destined to kick off in the first quarter of the 20th century, I would say that's complete nonsense, because, as I say, the British could have easily stayed out, and if they had; no world war at all, just another continental war, again, Franco-Prussian War II.

[nmoore63]

Napoleonic is more of a series of wars, it was never everybody all at once, it was Napoleon vs the British, with the British basically funding a series of counter Napoleon campaigns, Napoleon would win, then the British would throw more money at it to raise another coalition against him.

The second and fourth coalitions were all but one.
That’s like saying the world wars don’t count cause no spain

I don't know what you're really arguing, the Napoleonic Wars were not really like the First World War at all, but if you want to say that they was, whatever, it's not really worth arguing about. /shrugs

It was general war.
I mean you had fighting in South America, the carribean, Africa, Asia....

[nmoore63]

All Hegemons have an arc, but to say that a war of British hegemonic succession was destined to kick off in the first quarter of the 20th century, I would say that's complete nonsense, because, as I say, the British could have easily stayed out, and if they had; no world war at all, just another continental war, again, Franco-Prussian War II.

after German unification hard to see the continent ever reaching a balance that would leave Britain safe enough to not meddle.

[Smitty-48]

If the British stay out, then there's no money from the Americans to fund the stalemate and no blockade to bring the Germans to their knees, so then the Germans win, but if not a world war for all the marbles, then not actually a total war of annihilation, so even if the Germans win, they haven't won the world, the Anglo-Americans are still the dominant force, but, the Germans having defeated the Russians and the French, don't actually have any cause to go to war with Anglo-America, in fact its entirely plausible that Anglo-America and Germany become allies at that point.