Dullest thread ever

[Smitty-48]

I am opposed to moving Tolvanen for anything other than a deal that would lock down the Cup right here and right now. I don't know it such a deal exists anywhere.

If what I keep hearing about Tolvanen's ceiling is right, I'd be hard pressed to send him away.

We are getting news and opinions every day now about how soon we'll see Tolvanen here.

Oh and the obligatory Mike Fisher updates. Any chance he can still play?

Nothing locks the Cup down, it's just gonna come down to the bounces at the end, there's no rental on the market which is going to move the needle into a locked up scenario.

Mike Fisher I have my doubts, but he's gonna be a fourth line depth guy, so it's not make or break either way.

In terms of Tolvanen, just play the kid, it's like Willy Nylander was a rookie in the playoffs last year and he was a force.

You don't have a team of kids, it's just one kid, so you can just plug the kid in and let him do his thing. He's not a center, he's not a defenceman, he's not a goaltender, winger is a simple job, kids can handle it if they have the supporting cast with them.

[Smitty-48]

Tell you what, cousin, Nashville is a contender but I don't think they're the favourite, Pittsburgh is better, Tampa is better, Winnipeg is better, and Boston is on a crazy roll, I would put Nashville in the second tier with St. Louis and Vegas

That's not to say the Preds can't win the Cup, but they're not such a lock that they should be blowing up the future just to take a wild stab at it, the way to win the Cup is to take as many shots at it as possible, the window is not anywhere near closed for Nashville, could be Tolvanen who ends up scoring the goal that wins it, you gotta keep your powder dry and stick to the process, because it all comes down to the Hockey Gods in the end anyways.

Many, many great teams have failed to win the Cup, simply because they didn't get the bounces, there's a lot of luck involved, there's no way to lock it. Whose goalie gets hottest, who takes what injuries, and who catches the breaks from the Hockey Gods, is what it's gonna come down to.

[Fife]

Tell you what, cousin, Nashville is a contender but I don't think they're the favourite, Pittsburgh is better, Tampa is better, Winnipeg is better, and Boston is on a crazy roll, I would put Nashville in the second tier with St. Louis and Vegas

That's not to say the Preds can't win the Cup, but they're not such a lock that they should be blowing up the future just to take a wild stab at it, the way to win the Cup is to take as many shots at it as possible, the window is not anywhere near closed for Nashville, could be Tolvanen who ends up scoring the goal that wins it, you gotta keep your powder dry and stick to the process, because it all comes down to the Hockey Gods in the end anyways.

Many, many great teams have failed to win the Cup, simply because they didn't get the bounces, there's a lot of luck involved, there's no way to lock it.

I'm with you all the way on this.... just lots of goofy sports radio talk here, like everywhere. Every jabroni with a phone thinks they know more than Poile.

[Smitty-48]

Tell you what, cousin, Nashville is a contender but I don't think they're the favourite, Pittsburgh is better, Tampa is better, Winnipeg is better, and Boston is on a crazy roll, I would put Nashville in the second tier with St. Louis and Vegas

That's not to say the Preds can't win the Cup, but they're not such a lock that they should be blowing up the future just to take a wild stab at it, the way to win the Cup is to take as many shots at it as possible, the window is not anywhere near closed for Nashville, could be Tolvanen who ends up scoring the goal that wins it, you gotta keep your powder dry and stick to the process, because it all comes down to the Hockey Gods in the end anyways.

Many, many great teams have failed to win the Cup, simply because they didn't get the bounces, there's a lot of luck involved, there's no way to lock it.

I'm with you all the way on this.... just lots of goofy sports radio talk here, like everywhere. Every jabroni with a phone thinks they know more than Poile.

Poile might be kicking the tires on Nash, but he's not giving them Tolvanen, that would be getting fleeced, which ain't Poile's style, Poile is a fleecer not a fleecee.

[Smitty-48]

I mean, Nash is 34, he's over the hill, and he was a bit of a bust in any case, he never panned out to be what he was supposed to be, Nash is not the answer.

If Poile is going to put a major asset in play, it won't be for a rental, if he's gonna trade away a top prospect, he's gonna want Max Pacioretty or somebody like that, somebody with some term left on the contract, who is a lot younger than Rick Nash.

[Smitty-48]

If the Preds are looking to move prospects for a veteran, they should go back to Ottawa for Derick Brassard, a center who can slot in anywhere, better than Bonino at the same price, with a another year left on the contract.

Wouldn't give up Tolvanen for him, but I'd dangle guys like Aberg, Trenin or Doughtery, plus a pick or two.

[Smitty-48]

Tolvanen and Fabbro, those two should be untouchable, Nashville doesn't need anybody more than you need your top two future star prospects.

[StCapps]

Dave Poille is way too smart to trade Tolvanen for Nash, that would be a full retard type move that I might expect out of Marc Bergevin, not Dave Poille.

[Smitty-48]

I'd give up two 1st round picks before I would give up either Tolvanen or Fabbro, they're not gonna be lottery picks, while Tolvanen and Fabbro are lottery pick quality assets.

Tolvanen was a steal and Fabbro is NHL ready.

Don't need Rick Nash, but if there was a player worth having, I'd dangle the late round firsts, go for a center tho, don't trade away assets for wingers.

[Smitty-48]

Ottawa is the carcass I would be trying to pick clean if I was Poille, Brassard and Pageau, can play center or wing, they'd fit right into the Preds style, they got big game experience, they'd be pumped to get out of the Ottawa tire fire, Brassard still has term, Pageau would take a haircut to re-sign in Nashville, it's just a question of fleecing Eugene Dorion again.

Dangle the late round firsts and a bucket of B prospects. The late round first is a shiny bauble, but it's really just a glorified second rounder.