Trump's Economic Plan

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:08 pm

boethius wrote:I hope part of Trump's economic plan for agriculture is grinding up the bodies of SJWs and using them for fertilizer in the nation's heartland.

Grassfed-fertilizer straight from Commiefornia is a great soil starter for the early sorghum planting.


Well, he got rid of the stupid Federal Transgender bathroom bullshit and turned it over to the states. Noting States Rights. I'm a big Xth Amendment guy, so I love that. If CA wants to embrace some 50 year old drag queen and carry them into a youth girls swimming pool changing room that's fine with me. That's for CA to live with.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:13 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:

.... I'm disgusted by Trump, but I'm quite capable of separating my emotional reaction to him from evidence.

There is no link between bonds sold in January, and Trump's "leadership". Zero. None.

I've always been clear on how I rate any POTUS, happens on your watch you get the credit of blame. Obama gets to spike the football for perpetuity for killing OBL, and get the stigma for the shithole that Libya is.



Also, you have no proof that Trumps influence didn't isn't a result in the debt being reduced.
So, Trump gets the win on this one.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:17 pm

C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:

.... I'm disgusted by Trump, but I'm quite capable of separating my emotional reaction to him from evidence.

There is no link between bonds sold in January, and Trump's "leadership". Zero. None.

I've always been clear on how I rate any POTUS, happens on your watch you get the credit of blame. Obama gets to spike the football for perpetuity for killing OBL, and get the stigma for the shithole that Libya is.



Also, you have no proof that Trumps influence didn't isn't a result in the debt being reduced.
So, Trump gets the win on this one.
Then square the circle. Convince me that him taking the Oath and meeting with business people had the slightest impact on the amount of government bonds that were sold that month.

Did any agency spend less, for any discernable reason that has to do with Trump?
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:23 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:

.... I'm disgusted by Trump, but I'm quite capable of separating my emotional reaction to him from evidence.

There is no link between bonds sold in January, and Trump's "leadership". Zero. None.

I've always been clear on how I rate any POTUS, happens on your watch you get the credit of blame. Obama gets to spike the football for perpetuity for killing OBL, and get the stigma for the shithole that Libya is.



Also, you have no proof that Trumps influence didn't isn't a result in the debt being reduced.
So, Trump gets the win on this one.
Then square the circle. Convince me that him taking the Oath and meeting with business people had the slightest impact on the amount of government bonds that were sold that month.

Did any agency spend less, for any discernable reason that has to do with Trump?


It's too early to tell what Trump's lasting impact on the economy will be, but there is a lot of enthusiasm for his performance thus far and I want to watch the show, the end credits and out takes too. What I see is a president working harder than any other president I've seen in my lifetime to get more good paying jobs for American citizens. That's noble.

Trump won the election because he outworked HIllary, and from what I've seen he's busing his ass to fulfill his campaign promises. Even Dan had to admit he surprised how much Trump has accomplished. That's noble too.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:33 pm

C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:

I've always been clear on how I rate any POTUS, happens on your watch you get the credit of blame. Obama gets to spike the football for perpetuity for killing OBL, and get the stigma for the shithole that Libya is.



Also, you have no proof that Trumps influence didn't isn't a result in the debt being reduced.
So, Trump gets the win on this one.
Then square the circle. Convince me that him taking the Oath and meeting with business people had the slightest impact on the amount of government bonds that were sold that month.

Did any agency spend less, for any discernable reason that has to do with Trump?


It's too early to tell what Trump's lasting impact on the economy will be, but there is a lot of enthusiasm for his performance thus far and I want to watch the show, the end credits and out takes too. What I see is a president working harder than any other president I've seen in my lifetime to get more good paying jobs for American citizens. That's noble.

Trump won the election because he outworked HIllary, and from what I've seen he's busing his ass to fulfill his campaign promises. Even Dan had to admit he surprised how much Trump has accomplished. That's noble too.
Cool, I'm glad you like him, and I hope that your optimism is justified.

I'm only posting on this to counter the notion that somehow bond sales were affected by him, upon walking in the door.

Show me a trend, or connect him directly to an effect, and I'll join you.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:41 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:

It's too early to tell what Trump's lasting impact on the economy will be, but there is a lot of enthusiasm for his performance thus far and I want to watch the show, the end credits and out takes too. What I see is a president working harder than any other president I've seen in my lifetime to get more good paying jobs for American citizens. That's noble.

Trump won the election because he outworked HIllary, and from what I've seen he's busing his ass to fulfill his campaign promises. Even Dan had to admit he surprised how much Trump has accomplished. That's noble too.
Cool, I'm glad you like him, and I hope that your optimism is justified.

I'm only posting on this to counter the notion that somehow bond sales were affected by him, upon walking in the door.

Show me a trend, or connect him directly to an effect, and I'll join you.

There's nothing wrong with caution. I remember the late 90s when BJ Clinton was taking victory laps for 'Balancing the Budget' for the first time since WWII. His claims became so effective the GOP cucks jumped in and claimed, we forced BJ to balance the budget. But it was all pure BS. There was no balanced budget, just an accounting sheet that said, if we do XYandZ over the next 2 centuries the budget will balance out shortly after the Vulcans discover our warp drive signal.
Pure Fantasy.


Trump efforts look to be very real.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:30 pm

Reports are coming out that Trump may delay his infrastructure investment until 2018. So there's some red meat for ya BroGrump. Trump is putting off a campaign promise.

Personally, I'm fine with this. I like infrastructure repair, but we've seen with BHOs hasty implementation of 'Shovel Ready' jobs program led to a lot of waste and corruption.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by apeman » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:59 pm

C-Mag wrote:Reports are coming out that Trump may delay his infrastructure investment until 2018. So there's some red meat for ya BroGrump. Trump is putting off a campaign promise.

Personally, I'm fine with this. I like infrastructure repair, but we've seen with BHOs hasty implementation of 'Shovel Ready' jobs program led to a lot of waste and corruption.
And we expect rates to be higher in 2018, so this delay will materially increase costs. If it was me, I'd fund it at near-all-time low 30-year rates.

And

Maybe, we see the infrastructure now pushed off, for how long and how much will pass a republican congress? Maybe the wall is a fence, maybe the big tax cut package just got pared down to an individual cut (as opposed to massive corporate cut), maybe the BAT (border tax) ain't happening (signs point to NOPE), maybe, just maybe, all this stuff ain't getting done.

And then there's the idea of proposed massive deficit spending while cutting taxes . . . even Lord Keynes himself did not advocate deficit stimulus when unemployment is low and stock market is hitting DAILY all time highs. If Obama proposed such a thing, I'd be pissed.

So how blinded by partisanship are we?

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:13 pm

C-Mag wrote:Reports are coming out that Trump may delay his infrastructure investment until 2018. So there's some red meat for ya BroGrump. Trump is putting off a campaign promise.

Personally, I'm fine with this. I like infrastructure repair, but we've seen with BHOs hasty implementation of 'Shovel Ready' jobs program led to a lot of waste and corruption.
That was one of the very few things I liked about him. We need infrastructure spending, and now. Not some idiotic wall project to nowhere.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by apeman » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:20 pm

I now remember the time that I said all the infrastructure I see is fine, and trech linked me to pictures of the road where he lives that look like Aleppo.