Daniel Shaver shooting

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by jseymour » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:00 pm

After seeing the video the cop certainly needs to go to jail. Overcharging so you don't piss off the boys in blue is also a tactic of the over-reaching state to let slide a loose cannon, without accepting responsibility for their actions. Screw that. That cop needs to go to prison. His hand was coming forward and was empty when he shot. If he would have shot as soon as his hand went for his waistband that may have been a different story, but he didn't. He shot with his hand in plain view and empty. Flush that human turd.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:04 pm

jseymour wrote:After seeing the video the cop certainly needs to go to jail. Overcharging so you don't piss off the boys in blue is also a tactic of the over-reaching state to let slide a loose cannon, without accepting responsibility for their actions. Screw that. That cop needs to go to prison. His hand was coming forward and was empty when he shot. If he would have shot as soon as his hand went for his waistband that may have been a different story, but he didn't. He shot with his hand in plain view and empty. Flush that human turd.
Needs to go to prison on whose authority? An angry mob of torches and pitchforks? That's not how it works, guy, the state made their case, the jury didn't find it convincing, if you're tossed in prison regardless, that is a tyranny by definition, so you're calling for the constitution to be overthrown, which is replaced with what? The Commune? Sword of Liberty in an Apple Cart? Twitter?
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by jseymour » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:10 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
jseymour wrote:After seeing the video the cop certainly needs to go to jail. Overcharging so you don't piss off the boys in blue is also a tactic of the over-reaching state to let slide a loose cannon, without accepting responsibility for their actions. Screw that. That cop needs to go to prison. His hand was coming forward and was empty when he shot. If he would have shot as soon as his hand went for his waistband that may have been a different story, but he didn't. He shot with his hand in plain view and empty. Flush that human turd.
Needs to go to prison on whose authority? An angry mob of torches and pitchforks? That's not how it works, guy, the state made their case, the jury didn't find it convincing, if you're tossed in prison regardless, that is a tyranny by definition, so you're calling for the constitution to be overthrown, which is replaced with what? The Commune? Sword of Liberty in an Apple Cart? Twitter?
No he got out of the sentence he rightfully earned by the jury. But I would have zero problem and wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if it was in the news that someone shot his ass tomorrow.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:14 pm

Neither would I. Put me on the jury that tries his killer. Please, God. I cannot think of a better rebuke of the cops for this atrocity than somebody popping that little cunt and a jury letting the killer walk

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:19 pm

jseymour wrote:No he got out of the sentence he rightfully earned by the jury. But I would have zero problem and wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if it was in the news that someone shot his ass tomorrow.
If vigilante justice is appropriate, then there was no reason to charge him in the first place, if you can make that call, then so can he.

Anybody can shoot anybody based on their emotions; he's free to go.

By your own doctrine, I give him his walking papers.

He's a fuckin' hothead, you're a fuckin' hothead, you and him are one in the same.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:23 pm

What's the fucking point? We already are tits-deep into third world status here. The United States we knew is fucking gone. A judge in Chicago just let off one of those black kids walk without prison for kidnapping and torturing a mentally disabled kid because he is white. This court let off a murderous little cunt cop for obvious murder. A few weeks ago a jury let off an illegal convicted felon for murdering a white woman because he's a poor, poor Mexican and special, I guess.

There's no justice in America. If somebody kills your family or friend, the only justice left to you is to fucking kill that little piece of shit.

This is what happens when there is no justice in the courts. If that were my kid, that little cunt would be dead soon. Bet that.

Go ahead an convict me for taking the law into my own hands. Somebody has to fucking do it and the judicial system sure as shit doesn't want to.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:30 pm

If America is a lawless free for all, there's no reason to convict anybody of anything, but that would include him as well, so, again, he's free to go, by your own doctrine.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:34 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:If America is a lawless free for all, there's no reason to convict anybody of anything, but that would include him as well, so, again, he's free to go, by your own doctrine.

You just said these are the rules of engagement. The cops are an occupying force, and therefore my enemy.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:34 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
jseymour wrote:No he got out of the sentence he rightfully earned by the jury. But I would have zero problem and wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if it was in the news that someone shot his ass tomorrow.
If vigilante justice is appropriate, then there was no reason to charge him in the first place, if you can make that call, then so can he.

Anybody can shoot anybody based on their emotions; he's free to go.

By your own doctrine, I give him his walking papers.

He's a fuckin' hothead, you're a fuckin' hothead, you and him are one in the same.
Smits is right. Here's the problem -- the state (police officer) is prosecuted by the state (DA) by rules promulgated by the state (legislature) ministered by the state (judge).

The last civilized stand against the state is the jury.

There's where to focus your attention.

Unless we're going native, of course. In which case, I'm down.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by jseymour » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:37 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
jseymour wrote:No he got out of the sentence he rightfully earned by the jury. But I would have zero problem and wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if it was in the news that someone shot his ass tomorrow.
If vigilante justice is appropriate, then there was no reason to charge him in the first place, if you can make that call, then so can he.

Anybody can shoot anybody based on their emotions; he's free to go.

By your own doctrine, I give him his walking papers.

He's a fuckin' hothead, you're a fuckin' hothead, you and him are one in the same.
Sure were the same. He just murdered a man in a position he engineered, and I wouldn't shed a tear, if someone did the same to him. That makes us exactly the same apparently.

Yeah I'm a pretty pissed at the video I just saw. The level of stupid on both parties was staggering. But that wasn't justice, or even fair. The system is so stacked against a citizen that even when a cop murders a man on video all he get's is fired. How is that not vigilante justice in itself.