Unite the Right

[Smitty-48]

See, the name of the game here, is to provoke and then play the victim for propaganda purposes, both sides do it, but I just look at who is on what side of the Zona, like, if Nukedog goes into South Central Los Angeles and starts running about calling the Homey's niggers to their face, and they shoot him? I ain't shedding no tears for Nukedog neither, make no mistake.

Yay, we've gotten to the both sides do it so we're going to ignore our sense of courage and rationalism and just be dumb fuckers on the internet.

I don't find anything courageous about liberal cry blubberin' self victimization festivals, particularly when they go looking for trouble and stir up a hornet's nest of good ol' boys down in Dixie as a provocation. If they just took their licks without crying about it, that might be a bit more courageous, but whining and crying about it hysterically without end? Colour me unimpressed. /shrugs

[Cid]

It's not an either/or problem.
It's not either condemn alt-right vehicular homicide or condemn antifa/leftist firearm homicides.
There's a cool, rational, middle ground called condemn homicides.

If we could all reach that place, THEN we could dig into the nuances of why these groups of idiots are converging in one location to bash each other's brains out. But when homicides can't even be roundly condemned it's awfully lofty to try to start a conversation of "Well, why is this happening and who is at fault"?

If you can't get folks to agree that murdering each other is wrong good luck bringing them to a consensus on the underlying causes of the conflict.

I didn't fucking realize that I had to show up to condemn the dude who shot senators. Like didn't realize that was a thing we were on the fence about, like I don't recall the memes from the lefties about shot senators, is their a horribly debased lefty with nukedog's level of free time and poor photoshop skills? I was hoping he had a monopoly on that.

[Speaker to Animals]

Here's the problem with DB's tactic: it only goes one way. They instigate riots and attack people and then pretend like it wasn't them. Some guy freaks out after THEY attacked his vehicle with deadly weapons and runs some fat antifa chick over, suddenly it's time for everybody to condemn all violence because look how horrible everybody is on the right.

Yet where was that sentiment every time their BLM pets started race riots and brutally beat white people simply for being white? Where was that sentiment every time the militant wing of the democratic party (Antifa) marched into a crowd of people and started attacking them? Yeah.. crickets.

It's reached the point where I won't shed a tear for these people. They started the violence. They ended up with the most casualties. Fuck them. Sure, arrest everybody you can, but hey, wait a minutes, the cops aren't arresting their little Antifa buddies.. How very interesting..

Don't expect me to shed a tear for these colonizing, cultural genociding little rioters. They wanted to roll into a lawful assembly armed with deadly weapons to attack people and got plowed by a Freedom Car. LOL.

Fuck you for trying to guilt me into caring about these degenerate yoyos.

[TheReal_ND]

I'm fine with condemning violence. I may post a dodge meme about it but I don't encourage homicide. Ssu came in here saying the driver needs the death penalty and that just set me off. All this scape goating is getting old. Calling what looks like perhaps a guy getting attacked plowing into an armed crowd a terrorist is over the line for me. That's where my only disagreement lies.

[jediuser598]

You got a handful of liberal politicians, who won some close elections, who are then claiming that as a mandate to remove all symbols of the Confederacy in Dixie, on behalf of special interest groups who are made up mostly of Yankees? Uh-oh, seems to me, you keep going on this trajectory, you're gonna stir up a heck of lot more trouble than just one guy driving one car into a crowd, this is a cold peace, uneasy truce, who really gave these liberal polticians a mandate to throw gasoline on the embers?

You think we Anglos would ever go into Quebec and fuck with their Marquis de Montcalm like this? Hells no, all heck would break loose, stay on your side of the Zona, if you want to keep the peace.

Vae Victis.

Well, we the Hanoverians may have vanquished Montcalm & Co at the Plains of Abraham, but we're not ones for genocide against the French, so in the interests of Confederation, we maintain a policy of "Les Deux Solitudes Canadien", they don't cross into Upper Canada to pull down statues of the Queen, and we don't cross into Lower Canada to pull down statues of the Marquis neither, it's called keeping the peace, and any who would violate the terms of peaceful coexistence within Confederation, are the enemies of the Crown by default, even if they are Loyalists in fact.

One of these people came to my house (at my roomate's invitation) on the fourth of july and he was sporting a Confederate flag t-shirt. On the fourth of july. I also see Mexican immigrants (legal and illegal) sporting the Mexican flag and putting it above the American flag. I disagree with both.

[de officiis]

It's going to get worse before it gets better. People will probably be shot at one of these events in the near future. More and more people are being drawn to the poles.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's going to get worse before it gets better. People will probably be shot at one of these events in the near future. More and more people are being drawn to the poles.

Fact.

[Speaker to Animals]

Also, consider all the people who were murdered at the BLM race riots. Did the media get all apoplectic then? Fuck no they did not. They buried the stories as best they could.

Remember when progressives swarmed on a Trump supporter in the Portland airport and beat him into a coma? Oh, right. If all you do is watch CNN, you probably don't even know about stories like that..

Please. Get out of here with this fake concern. Fuck you. You guys done pushed too far. I guarantee I am not the only one who no longer gives a fuck.

Want more? Come back down here and start trying shit again and keep getting killed. Fuck you.

[Smitty-48]

Vae Victis.

I disagree with both.

Well whoopie fuckin' do, but since you just invoked Vae Victis, I just gave the good ol' boys down in Dixie the green light to do what they gotta do about the likes of you. Invoke Vae Victis, don't come crying to me after. /shrugs.

[jediuser598]

By the way, would just point out, that the namby pamby cry blubberer in chief, Jedi, did just invoke Might Makes Right, so just keep that in mind, next time he comes a runnin' and blubberin' about 'ZOMG, they be killin' people up in here, waaaaaanh!"

It's an observation. Say you have a small country of the most virtuous people alive. They are good incarnate. Then say a source of near infinite energy is discovered on their land, and only their land. When the larger countries start invading them, their virtuousness, their quality of humanity isn't going to mean shit when their smaller armies are thrown aside. It is the prerogative of larger nations to dictate to smaller nations. It's not fair, it's not right, but it is true. That's just historical observation there.