Vault 7 - Happening

[C-Mag]

As far as digital rights protection groups, there's this bunch:

https://www.eff.org/

Unfortunately they are pro-government regulation and anti-privacy. They showed that by promoting net neutrality.

They're not perfect and, as pointed out, not terribly effective.

The NRA is pretty effective. They're backed by good money with intertwining interests. 4th amendment issues just don't have that right now.

+1

[Calculus Man]

Unfortunately they are pro-government regulation and anti-privacy. They showed that by promoting net neutrality.

They're not perfect and, as pointed out, not terribly effective.

The NRA is pretty effective. They're backed by good money with intertwining interests. 4th amendment issues just don't have that right now.

+1

+2. The NRA's success is largely due to the fact that it has a massive industry supporting it.

My great hope is that one day companies like Apple will realize that this spying bullshit hurts their sales. You've already seen them start paying lip service to privacy rights.

Anyone trying to protect the 4th amendment needs to somehow make the case that the 4th amendment protects corporate profits.

[TheReal_ND]

Something tells me this is a lot of virtue signaling on your guys' part. In case it's not, and you actually give a shit about protecting your privacy, you should have been browsing this board years ago.

https://8ch.net/tech/catalog.html

[Calculus Man]

Something tells me this is a lot of virtue signaling on your guys' part. In case it's not, and you actually give a shit about protecting your privacy, you should have been browsing this board years ago.

https://8ch.net/tech/catalog.html

lol. Yeah, I'll cop to being too lazy to protect my own privacy. But honestly, I'm more concerned with everyone's privacy than with my own. Not because I'm altruistic, but because I think that's where the true battle lies. Is it really going to matter if the NSA knows what I said to my grandma last night? Probably not. Seems like a waste of effort when I don't really need to worry...yet.

Also, I'm not reading an entire message board...recommend me a couple posts or something.

[apeman]

Re: Nukedog -- that doesn't make much sense. Simply taking increasingly elaborate steps to hide -- from my very own govt, that I pay for and which acts contrary to the founding document of the country -- is not what I want.

Even Winston found ways to escape Big Bro., even if just for a while

[TheReal_ND]

Lurk or don't. Anyway, the NSA scoops up everything. The FISA court is the rubber stamp mechanism for intelligence agencies to look at your metadata. That's how it works. Seems like if you want more privacy for everyone, you need judicial reform more than whining about the tools the intelligence agencies will part with over their dead bodies.

Anyway, even with a warrant you still see companies like Apple putting up a token resistance from time to time. As much as I hate Apple, that's the other method of recourse. Voting with dollars. Better yet, just quit buying all their shit all together if you can help it. Not that it matters. I bet every first generation Mexican carpenter bought his daughter an Alexa for Christmas lol.

[Fife]

Re: Nukedog -- that doesn't make much sense. Simply taking increasingly elaborate steps to hide -- from my very own govt, that I pay for and which acts contrary to the founding document of the country -- is not what I want.

Even Winston found ways to escape Big Bro., even if just for a while

If Winston could discuss it, he would prolly say that it was good while it lasted.

The voice from the telescreen was still pouring forth its tale of prisoners and booty and slaughter, but the shouting outside had died down a little. The waiters were turning back to their work. One of them approached with the gin bottle. Winston, sitting in a blissful dream, paid no attention as his glass was filled up. He was not running or cheering any longer. He was back in the Ministry of Love, with everything forgiven, his soul white as snow. He was in the public dock, confessing everything, implicating everybody. He was walking down the white-tiled corridor, with the feeling of walking in sunlight, and an armed guard at this back. The long-hoped for bullet was entering his brain.

He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark mustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-wiled exile form the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

[TheReal_ND]

Quit quoting that book. We've all fucking read it you snowflake lolb. Quote something that wasn't required reading in high school ffs.

[Fife]

He turned round, and for a second almost failed to recognize her. What he had actually expected was to see her naked. But she was not naked. The transformation that had happened was much more surprising than that. She had painted her face.

[C-Mag]

They're not perfect and, as pointed out, not terribly effective.

The NRA is pretty effective. They're backed by good money with intertwining interests. 4th amendment issues just don't have that right now.

+1

+2. The NRA's success is largely due to the fact that it has a massive industry supporting it.

My great hope is that one day companies like Apple will realize that this spying bullshit hurts their sales. You've already seen them start paying lip service to privacy rights.

Anyone trying to protect the 4th amendment needs to somehow make the case that the 4th amendment protects corporate profits.

+3

I think you've hit on the key element. We need Private Companies working for us, instead of again us.

Can the Trump Affect drive Apple, Google and Facebook to clip the ties with government ?
Cause right now they are siding with the Establishment.