THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:52 pm

adwinistrator wrote:
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adwinistrator wrote:
Most people consider tariffs to be anti-capitalist :shock:
Again, complete and utter balderdash, every capitalist country in the world has tariffs and always has; this is why I call you out for talking shit; it's the whole talking shit part, while pretending that you are just discussing, when it fact you are blatantly hacking away to beat the band.
StCapps is the one who said Trump was threatening increasing tariffs as a bluff.
That has nothing to do with me, but there's nothing anti-capitalist nor extreme about raising tariffs, yet here you are, still insisting that they are, trying to make it like Capps is the one saying it, when in fact it is you, the very height of disingenuity, by defintion.

Capps never said "extreme anti-capitalist measures", that was you disengenously putting words in his mouth; everybody go back and check right now if they wish.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:53 pm

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Smitty-48 wrote:I don't think it's pretend, I think the GOP is a big tent, of which a very large cohort are genuinely Religious Right, and so within that paradigm, the leader of the party gives that cohort their due, nothing wrong with that, their due does not amount to Christian Sharia, but they get their time in the sun, which the Democrats would not give them, so, that's politics, who knew?
I'm no apologist for the religious right, and I think Smitty is spot on here.

In general, those that lean left are very quick to decide that those to their right don't actually believe in all their righty wrong-think.

To them, no one could believe it, so it must be all pretend. How could anyone disagree with me?
Oh, I don't doubt that some kind of special religious hypocrite could get himself elected, whilst ignoring the entire point of the New Testament. It seems to happen with some regularity. But how many of the 110% of government figures bowing heads together at a prayer breakfast are actual Believers? It's Kabuki Theater on a grand scale, with a few genuine weirdos thrown in the mix.

It's not that they 'can't believe it' - it's that they can't believe it, and still end up as a corrupt-ass millionaire politician unless they're A) Full Of Shit, or B) Completely unaware of what their own religious text is telling them. And yet, for now, the elderly sheep keep lining up to pull that lever for Jayzus. It's a dying tumor on our riddled national body. I just wish it would go faster.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:59 pm

Reminds me: when dishonest men encounter an honest man, they assume he must be the greatest liar in the world.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:02 pm

adwinistrator wrote:Nobody was pretending that Trump was the Christian family values candidate, he was the anti-PC candidate.
Nobody except Trump apparently...

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by adwinistrator » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:02 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
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Again, complete and utter balderdash, every capitalist country in the world has tariffs and always has; this is why I call you out for talking shit; it's the whole talking shit part, while pretending that you are just discussing, when it fact you are blatantly hacking away to beat the band.
StCapps is the one who said Trump was threatening increasing tariffs as a bluff.
That has nothing to do with me, but there's nothing anti-capitalist nor extreme about raising tariffs, yet here you are, still insisting that they are, trying to make it like Capps is the one saying it, when in fact it is you, the very height of disingenuity, by defintion.
Here we go... Ready? All of your complaints about what I wrote could have been resolved with the simple statement "I don't think tariffs are anti-capitalist". In fact, I probably would have agree'd with you, that I should have said "protectionist" instead, but that would have been a civil conversation about the terminology I was using, but we can't have that! No, we have to start calling someone disingenuous and insult their intelligence.

The way your posts read, I thought you were complaining that saying Trump had threatened tariffs was disingenuous...

Seriously, get a grip.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:04 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Reminds me: when dishonest men encounter an honest man, they assume he must be the greatest liar in the world.
You actually believe in an "honest politician"? Holy shit, I knew you were different, but...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Fife » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:04 pm

Yeah, those fake ass motherfuckers should take a knee at prayer time.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:04 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Oh, I don't doubt that some kind of special religious hypocrite could get himself elected, whilst ignoring the entire point of the New Testament. It seems to happen with some regularity. But how many of the 110% of government figures bowing heads together at a prayer breakfast are actual Believers? It's Kabuki Theater on a grand scale, with a few genuine weirdos thrown in the mix.

It's not that they 'can't believe it' - it's that they can't believe it, and still end up as a corrupt-ass millionaire politician unless they're A) Full Of Shit, or B) Completely unaware of what their own religious text is telling them. And yet, for now, the elderly sheep keep lining up to pull that lever for Jayzus. It's a dying tumor on our riddled national body. I just wish it would go faster.
If you are saying politicians are bullshit, yes, that is probably why we all ended up on DCF in the first place. My gut says Ben Carson is a sincere religious pol, likely few others. Smart, too.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:05 pm

apeman wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Oh, I don't doubt that some kind of special religious hypocrite could get himself elected, whilst ignoring the entire point of the New Testament. It seems to happen with some regularity. But how many of the 110% of government figures bowing heads together at a prayer breakfast are actual Believers? It's Kabuki Theater on a grand scale, with a few genuine weirdos thrown in the mix.

It's not that they 'can't believe it' - it's that they can't believe it, and still end up as a corrupt-ass millionaire politician unless they're A) Full Of Shit, or B) Completely unaware of what their own religious text is telling them. And yet, for now, the elderly sheep keep lining up to pull that lever for Jayzus. It's a dying tumor on our riddled national body. I just wish it would go faster.
If you are saying politicians are bullshit, yes, that is probably why we all ended up on DCF in the first place. My gut says Ben Carson is a sincere religious pol, likely few others. Smart, too.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:07 pm

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Here we go... Ready? All of your complaints about what I wrote could have been resolved with the simple statement "I don't think tariffs are anti-capitalist". In fact, I probably would have agree'd with you, that I should have said "protectionist" instead, but that would have been a civil conversation about the terminology I was using, but we can't have that! No, we have to start calling someone disingenuous and insult their intelligence.

Seriously, get a grip.
I've got a firm grip on your disingenous concern trolling undercover bitch hackery, and I'm merely pointing it out, if you are want to undermine your credibility as a good faith poster, that's on you, I'm not undermining you by pointing out your bad faith posts made under the disingenous rubric of "just wanting to have a good faith discussion", you're doing that to yourself.

Seriously, stop whining and just get on with it. I'm not making you be disingenous, I'm just marking the trail as you go.
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