MHF Democrat Primary Poll

[StCapps]

Bernie didn't win the nomination because he was anti-establishment, he won it because he was anti-establishment in a field where the establishment lane was clogged. See initially it looked like non-establishment lane was clogged, but then it shook out the other way, hence Bernie. My reasoning was closer to the mark than yours, as I said Bernie would win if the establishment lane got more clogged and the anti-establishment lane cleared up and he rode that to winning the first three states giving him momentum heading into Super Tuesday that he would ride to a victory, you just said some anti-establishment person would win and Bernie was the most likely of the bunch, you didn't say why an anti-establishment candidate would win with nearly as accurate of a prediction as I did when I layed out how Bernie could win.

You might have been more sure Bernie was going to win than me, but I was more sure of why he would win, if he did. It takes vastly more brain power to predict how Bernie could win than it does to predict Bernie will win.

[pineapplemike]

this is pathetic, just go re-read the thread, its all there

[StCapps]

this is pathetic, just go re-read the thread, its all there

Indeed. StA is trying to pretend I said something different than I actually did, but if you actually go back and read it, you'll see I was right about what I said, and StA is simply erecting a Strawman Capps to argue against.

[pineapplemike]

It is Bernie, Tulsi, or Yang

Bernie is a lightweight who refuses to take the kid gloves off, he isn't winning shit.


It's Biden or Warren, and Warren seems the weaker of the two with a real shot at winning.

[StCapps]

If y'all think picking who will win is more important than picking why that person will win, you're retarded.

[StCapps]

Bernie is a lightweight who refuses to take the kid gloves off, he isn't winning shit.


It's Biden or Warren, and Warren seems the weaker of the two with a real shot at winning.

Like I said, that was after Bernie's heart attack. For a few weeks, I had Bernie at number three, and Warren at number two, but most of the time, I had Bernie at two.

Of course I was wrong about the kid gloves thing, because I didn't anticipate that Bernie's competition would take off the kid gloves against him, except Warren for one debate after she was done for anyway. Biden using the kid gloves on Bernie is a big part of his early failures in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada, he has no one to blame but himself for not landing a glove on Bernie before Iowa.

[pineapplemike]

being retarded is a helluva drug

[StCapps]

Saying Bernie had no chance, especially at the time that I said it, when I said everyone else in the field who wasn't Biden or Warren had no chance as well, doesn't mean I had him lower than third most likely to win the nomination at any point, and I certainly never had Yang or Gabbard anywhere near my top three list, because I'm not retarded. It is in fact the truth that for most of this thread I had Bernie in second, and cherry picking the point where I was lowest on Bernie (which again is third at the worst, and only for a brief period of time) doesn't prove anything.

I certainly wasn't the only one writing Bernie off briefly after his heart attack either, most thought he was done, and it wasn't unreasonable to assume that either.

[Hastur]

Just shut up already, No one's listening to you anymore.

In this thread, I should add.

[Speaker to Animals]

this is the problem with this forum. no humility. endless goalpost moving

It is so ridiculous.