THE ERA OF TRUMP

[SuburbanFarmer]

Nobody was pretending that Trump was the Christian family values candidate, he was the anti-PC candidate.

...except for Trump himself. And the religious Right.

Ever seen 4 pastors come up and give a special God message during the inauguration ceremony before? Me neither. Trump supporters thankful that he 'mentioned God'? Yeah, totally not the religious candidate.

What's wrong with being the religious candidate in America? America is Jesusland, makes sense to bow before their Messiah, why not?

Nothing wrong with that. It wins elections. I just can't believe the fucking zombies that vote for whomever says they love Jayzus more loudly.

[Smitty-48]

"Solve" is to find answer or explanation to a problem, that is not what the government should do, the private sector will solve the problems, the government needs to get out of the way, for the government to attempt to solve the problems, to wit, find all answers and explanations, would be counterproductive.

Don't be such a nihilist...
Getting rid of counterproductive legislation and smoothing the way for business is still solving a problem...
Allowing the state to be more efficient and effective is leadership.

Don't be afraid to invoke the state... unless you want to go all libertarian on us.

The role of the state is to build the labratory, but then simply open the door and let the private sector go in and work the problems, it's not the job of the state to solve the problems for the private sector, it is for the private sector to solve problems for the state.

[adwinistrator]

Why do you keep repeating this nonsense over and over, are you trying to out yourself as a concern troll? Obvious concern troll is obvious after all.

If you'd rather I take it to a different thread, I'm fine with that. I'm not on team Trump, so I cannot be a concern troll..

You came in and presented yourself as an honest broker who was open to having the situation explained to him, when it was explained to you that nothing Trump is saying is anti-capitalist, you continued to assert "extreme anti-capitalist measures" as an obvious hack, after you claimed to be otherwise; concern troll.

It's called a discussion, I'll gladly discuss the differences between our interpretations of Trump's speech vs. the policies his supporters are expecting.

You've brought up my use of the phrase "extreme anti-capitalist measures" as if that sums up anything I'm asking about, when it's not.

Trump is going to lower corporate taxes, remove regulations and lower tariffs. Threatening tariffs on companies moving jobs overseas is a bluff designed to scare them into staying. First Trump feigns use of the stick and then presents a carrot, to make the carrot seem more desirable than it is on it's own, and then he gets more people to bite at a higher percentage of the time as a result. That's his MO, he calls it "The Art Of The Deal". Outrageous opening offers are not hard policy stances, bet that.

Thanks, great answer to my question. I know what you're talking about, in regards to feigning the crazy for the compromise.

So you think that he has the goals he stated in his speech, but will threaten multinational corporations with extreme anti-capitalist measures, all in an attempt to get them to make choices that benefit the American workforce?

StCapps stated "Threatening tariffs on companies moving jobs overseas is a bluff", which I agreed with, and equated tariffs with extreme anti-capitalist measures.

You're misrepresenting my intentions.

[Okeefenokee]

Trump said something today about discovering patriotism and loving your country again today. As soon as I did this I saw the light. Sure, we have a multitude of problems, but hating the US and wishing we were European is never going to help anything.

Hence I am changing my avatar to our flag in celebration of MAGA today

It's bigger than the max dimensions. You're getting special treatment. I'm telling.

[Smitty-48]

...except for Trump himself. And the religious Right.

Ever seen 4 pastors come up and give a special God message during the inauguration ceremony before? Me neither. Trump supporters thankful that he 'mentioned God'? Yeah, totally not the religious candidate.

What's wrong with being the religious candidate in America? America is Jesusland, makes sense to bow before their Messiah, why not?

Nothing wrong with that. It wins elections. I just can't believe the fucking zombies that vote for whomever says they love Jayzus more loudly.

Pretty sure the Religious Right would not vote for the Democrats just because they invoke Jesus, the Democrats try that too, but it doesn't work, as clearly, the Religious Right is not fooled into believing that the Democrats will actually push their agenda, whereas, within the Republican big tent, is the best place to go to get the attendance that they are seeking.

[Smitty-48]

It's called a discussion, I'll gladly discuss the differences between our interpretations of Trump's speech vs. the policies his supporters are expecting.

You've brought up my use of the phrase "extreme anti-capitalist measures" as if that sums up anything I'm asking about, when it's not.

And within the context of that discussion, I find you to be disingenous, was merely articulating why that is.

"Hey, guys, I'm just here to discuss why is Trump invoking Marxist anti-capitalism?"

He's not, don't be silly.

"Hey, guys, about those extreme anti-capitalist measures, blah, blah, blah"

See how that works?

[SuburbanFarmer]

What's wrong with being the religious candidate in America? America is Jesusland, makes sense to bow before their Messiah, why not?

Nothing wrong with that. It wins elections. I just can't believe the fucking zombies that vote for whomever says they love Jayzus more loudly.

Pretty sure the Religious Right would not vote for the Democrats just because they invoke Jesus, the Democrats try that too, but it doesn't work, as clearly, the Religious Right is not fooled into believing that the Democrats will actually push their agenda, whereas, within the Republican big tent, is the best place to go to get the attendance that they are seeking.

Exactly what I'm talking about. The Republicans don't give any more of a shit about God-Law than the Dems do. They just pretend harder. Speeches and prayer breakfasts etc, and nothing. No Christian Sharia Law has been invoked, other than the War On Drugs idiocy. Yet they keep on coming, scared children looking to invoke their deity's favor by repressing other citizens GAHHHH hate it so much.

[apeman]

http://www.theonion.com/article/departi ... lMarketing

Departing Obama Tearfully Shoos Away Loyal Drone Following Him Out Of White House
‘Go On Now, Git,’ Says Former President

[Smitty-48]

Nothing wrong with that. It wins elections. I just can't believe the fucking zombies that vote for whomever says they love Jayzus more loudly.

Pretty sure the Religious Right would not vote for the Democrats just because they invoke Jesus, the Democrats try that too, but it doesn't work, as clearly, the Religious Right is not fooled into believing that the Democrats will actually push their agenda, whereas, within the Republican big tent, is the best place to go to get the attendance that they are seeking.

Exactly what I'm talking about. The Republicans don't give any more of a shit about God-Law than the Dems do. They just pretend harder. Speeches and prayer breakfasts etc, and nothing. No Christian Sharia Law has been invoked, other than the War On Drugs idiocy. Yet they keep on coming, scared children looking to invoke their deity's favor by repressing other citizens GAHHHH hate it so much.

I don't think it's pretend, I think the GOP is a big tent, of which a very large cohort are genuinely Religious Right, and so within that paradigm, the leader of the party gives that cohort their due, nothing wrong with that, their due does not amount to Christian Sharia, but they get their time in the sun, which the Democrats would not give them, so, that's politics, who knew?

[Okeefenokee]

Now, see, Grumpy is not a concern troll, because Grumpy is openly contemptous of Trump and making no bones about it, he does not attempt to present himself as being anything other than fiercly partisan against Trump, which is not disingenous, whether your agree with him or not.

He's still going to Gitmo, though.

I thought you were going to drive him to Canada and then we were going to look the other way and call it an accident when you dropped the AGM-114 on his car from the MQ-9? Is that not on anymore?

Speaking of which,

Departing Obama Tearfully Shoos Away Loyal Drone Following Him Out Of White House

WASHINGTON—Stopping and turning around as he made his way across the South Lawn after hearing the unmanned aerial vehicle hovering just feet behind him, outgoing President Barack Obama tearfully shooed away a loyal MQ-9 Reaper drone attempting to follow him out of the White House, sources confirmed Friday. “Go on now—get out of here!” said the former commander-in-chief, his lower lip trembling and his eyes welling with tears as he affected a stern tone of voice in an attempt to scare off the faithful hunter-killer drone that had spent the past eight years obediently at his side.

http://www.theonion.com/article/departi ... ne-f-55100

Damnit, apeman got the drop on me.