Meanwhile in Ukraine

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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:52 am
C-Mag wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:47 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:40 am

Why would it be any different than taking over a factory or something? I don’t get it.
The way I took it this airport was in the Ukrainian rear and they dropped helo air assault troops on the airport. It was an all airborne operation. Is that not how it happened ?
Sounds right. I just don’t know why taking an airport would be difficult, if everybody lands safely.
Did they get overrun by nearby troops maybe?
Because shit doesn't go right, not even in training.
Bad weather can fuck you up. You are reliant on resupply being accurate and on time.
It's very easy for landing troops to not come down where they are supposed, lose key leadership, get key equipment destroyed or not show up. Things can compound really quick.

You really need your shit together because there are so many ways to fail.
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C-Mag wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:39 am
Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:19 am reports are that the Russian air assault on the airfield did gain lodgement on the objective

the Ukrainians state that they have "prevented the complete takeover of the facility"
Those are difficult operations to pull off
well again, it's very American style

they sent the VDV in to seize the airfield ahead of the main force

the same way the Rangers would be sent in ahead of the Cavalry
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the unit launching that assault is the Russian Airborne Rangers

45th Guards Independent Special Reconnaissance Regiment - VDV

they were deployed to Minsk in Belarus last month

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I would surmise that most of the mechanized forces deployed so far

based on the equipment they are using, vehicles wise

is the 20th Guards Combined Arms Army headquartered at Voronezh

supported by 6th Combined Arms Army at Petrograd

there is a much larger and better equipped formation being held in reserve

1st Guards Tank Army headquartered at Odintsovo

1st Guards Tank Army is held in reserve for if NATO makes a move

the Russians have not yet deployed that many ground forces into Ukraine yet

so far this is an economy of force operation leveraging airpower

primary onjective is clearly to bypass the Ukrainian main force to dash on and seize Kiev
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The president of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy calls on Russian President Vladimir Putin to sit down to negotiate.

"Let's sit at the negotiating table to stop people from dying" he said before going underground
Other reports
Some or most elements of the US 2nd Cav in Romania are retiring to Germany

Zelensky frantic that Biden won't help him
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Russian President Vladimir Putin announced on Friday that he is open to sending a delegation to Minsk, Belarus to negotiate with Ukraine if they surrender.
Ukraine is going to fold in the next 12 to 24 hours


Putin tells Ukrainian soldiers "Take power into your own hands, it seems it will be easier to negotiate with you than with the band of drug addicts & neo-Nazis that sits in Kyiv & has taken the Ukrainian people hostage."
Erm, so how about those new talks in Minsk?
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Beltway answer to helping the Ukraine
Peter Doocy: We’ve been able to confirm that when Lloyd Austin went to Capitol Hill to brief senators about the Pentagon’s plans and the Biden orders to the military chiefs, they are figuring out how to train Ukrainian forces to fight Russians remotely… Right! And it would be a very 2022 thing.
The managerial States only answer, 'Can't we teach the Ukrainians to fight, form units and defend their country with a power point slide deck and some online classes.'


The US has become a really shitty ally. :shhh:
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C-Mag wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:19 am
The president of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy calls on Russian President Vladimir Putin to sit down to negotiate.

"Let's sit at the negotiating table to stop people from dying" he said before going underground
Other reports
Some or most elements of the US 2nd Cav in Romania are retiring to Germany

Zelensky frantic that Biden won't help him
It’s just dawning on him from the looks of it.

First, he thought NATO/US would deter Putin.
Then he mobilizes the entire country to buy time for NATO.
NATOs not coming, and he’s about to get Sadaam’d.

Expect some serious flailing and probably an intercepted flight out of country.
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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:28 am
It’s just dawning on him from the looks of it.

First, he thought NATO/US would deter Putin.
Then he mobilizes the entire country to buy time for NATO.
NATOs not coming, and he’s about to get Sadaam’d.

Expect some serious flailing and probably an intercepted flight out of country.
Yep, but he's got a nice Swiss bank account that you and I paid for, plus whatever he can steal from the people of Ukraine.
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On Thursday Dmitry Rogozin called Joe Biden’s latest sanctions the “sanctions of Alzheimer’s.”
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