HOLY FUCK GET IN HERE HAPPENING IN CT

[clubgop]

European nationalists....

Dude. Just back to ping ping

Played 5 won 5.
Kicking arse at poker too. Left the table with 5.5 times what I sat down with last night........

So came to the table with a 2 year old left with an 11 year old. Not impressed.

[C-Mag]

HA! The fools! They have no idea how quickly we can become less tolerant and less free.

Your move Mohamed!

Oh, please. All a western society has to do to become less free is import more Muslims. That will increase the terror attacks which will result in the government cracking down on civil liberties.

+1

Not only that, larger and larger sects of society will be denied basic Civil Liberties by the growth of Islamic values in Islamic Communities.

[C-Mag]

Sounds expensive. Do it like you'd put down a sick dog, and move on. Dramatics are for the left.

You're no fun.
Not even just a little bacon grease on the bullet?

http://www.silverbulletgunoil.net/

Good Enough for Bin Laden, Good enough for ISIS

[C-Mag]

Tell me the difference between that brown kid with the AKs, and this:



EDIT ugh goddamn linking pictures on the phone

Guns are legal in the US, not in England.

[Ex-California]

Tell me the difference between that brown kid with the AKs, and this:



EDIT ugh goddamn linking pictures on the phone

Guns are legal in the US, not in England.

The English don't have rights

[SuburbanFarmer]

HA! The fools! They have no idea how quickly we can become less tolerant and less free.

Your move Mohamed!

Oh, please. All a western society has to do to become less free is import more Muslims. That will increase the terror attacks which will result in the government cracking down on civil liberties.

+1

Not only that, larger and larger sects of society will be denied basic Civil Liberties by the growth of Islamic values in Islamic Communities.

Deerborne, MI.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

HA! The fools! They have no idea how quickly we can become less tolerant and less free.

Your move Mohamed!

Oh, please. All a western society has to do to become less free is import more Muslims. That will increase the terror attacks which will result in the government cracking down on civil liberties.

+1

Not only that, larger and larger sects of society will be denied basic Civil Liberties by the growth of Islamic values in Islamic Communities.

Why are you convinced Islamic values will win out in a free marketplace of ideas?

Personally, I am so convinced that western civilization is superior, that I am not concerned at all that it is incapable of winning once people have access to all the benefits of an open, secular society.

[C-Mag]

Why are you convinced Islamic values will win out in a free marketplace of ideas?

Personally, I am so convinced that western civilization is superior, that I am not concerned at all that it is incapable of winning once people have access to all the benefits of an open, secular society.

Now that's a good argument.

Do you have any data to support that is a growing trend?

[Hastur]

Oh, please. All a western society has to do to become less free is import more Muslims. That will increase the terror attacks which will result in the government cracking down on civil liberties.

+1

Not only that, larger and larger sects of society will be denied basic Civil Liberties by the growth of Islamic values in Islamic Communities.

Why are you convinced Islamic values will win out in a free marketplace of ideas?

Personally, I am so convinced that western civilization is superior, that I am not concerned at all that it is incapable of winning once people have access to all the benefits of an open, secular society.

I used to think so as well but I'm having doubts. For the western values to win the battle the muslim population has to be let in. Now they aren't in big enough numbers. Too many are left on the outside just looking at the rewards but being denied them. This is because of several factors. We say that a lot of first and second generations immigrants are "too far from the labor market" meaning they have insufficient education, language skills or will to participate. Couple that with no simple jobs due to globalism, cheap labor from eastern European EU members and rampant under the rug racism from a lot of people and you end up with a huge number of disenfranchised people living on subsidies and ripe for radicalization.

The cost for this is huge. I personally feel it is utterly irresponsible to take in a lot of people like this when we don't have anything better to offer them. The established immigrant population are growing increasingly worried as well when they see that the places where they grew up are turning into radicalized communities. Women who have grown up in Sweden with Swedish values in secular families are suddenly being harassed for not wearing headscarves and are being bullied out of cafés where muslim men don't want female company. It's totally insane and it's been happening fast.

We see political parties on the left being infiltrated by radical muslims. Recently a high ranking member of the green party, who are a "feminist" organization, had to resign from the party board when it turned out he refused to shake hands with women due to his faith. His party comrades were apparently fine with this but it became a scandal when he did it openly towards a reporter and it became known outside the party. Our minister for Housing and Urban Development Mehmet Kaplan had to resign due to his involvement with
the Islamist organization Millî Görüş. This is part of a strategy that has been pointed out by researchers but is being denied by the mainstream.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... weden.html

Schools in immigrant dominated areas have started to separate boys and girls in some classes. The rationality being that the parents wouldn't let the participate otherwise so it's all for the best.

Swininghalls have times when only women are allowed for the same reason.

This is Sweden goddamnit. We only wear clothes if we absolutely have to.

What kind of society are we building here? I fear for my children. Especially my daughter.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Why are you convinced Islamic values will win out in a free marketplace of ideas?

Personally, I am so convinced that western civilization is superior, that I am not concerned at all that it is incapable of winning once people have access to all the benefits of an open, secular society.

Now that's a good argument.

Do you have any data to support that is a growing trend?

Smitty once posted an interesting graph (that I am too lazy to find) showing that terrorist violence was, counter intuitive as it might seem given our exposure to it, on the decline. The evidence that western values are superior seems uncontroversial to me, but like any value statement is difficult to prove. As is the statement that the superior value system is destined to win... but abandoning those values to save them seems like a pyrrhic victory at best.

I think all of Hastur's concerns are completely valid, and there is certainly a lot that the people of western civilization need to do to protect the gains they have won over the past five or six centuries. The obvious, totally absurd, cognitive dissonance many people seem to have about criticizing the religion of peace and it's prophet (peace be upon him) is something that I find at least as disturbing as the most conservative member of this forum. But criticizing religious ideas has always been touchy, but we have over come it with the other Abrahamic religions.

There is a lot of validity to the claims of folks like Nuke who point out that criticism of Islam results in being called racist and fascist unfairly. But that position is rather weakened when those same people start openly saying legitimately racist and fascist bullshit along with their valid mockeries of Islamism. It helps confirm the very stupidest of left Islam apologists, and that is a fucking problem from where I stand...

but I don't know how to actually solve any of these problems. Fortunately, if all problems that I couldn't personally solve were intractable we would still be in the stone age, so I have good reason to believe that my mental limitations aren't broadly representative of what humans are capable of.