Public School Education System Thread

[Ex-California]

Should we start teaching 911 Truth and Flat Earth Theories in certain sections of the country because people believe that? How about anti-vaccination theory? There are a lot of pockets of that around

Number one, you presume that this stuff is all Christian. That's just silly. Christian theologians were discussing evolution as a general concept in late antiquity. Most of these schools *do* teach evolution. Number two, the government schools fail to teach kids much of anything other than "evolution is right. Listen to the scientists and the democratic party." On the other hand, parochial schools do statistically greatly outperform government schools across the board, including in the sciences.

You have a prejudicial bias that causes you to want to fuck with the free choices of other Americans. I think a lot of this has to do with the yankee culture that dominates much of the Northeast, Great Lakes, and Pacific Coastline. Yankees were originally a puritan group who believed if they followed some perfect set of communitarian precepts they would establish a utopia on Earth. These days they replaced the original Puritanism with the radical secularism of progressive politics. But the behavior and biases remain the same.

Maybe we just need to break up? Because I don't see how we can reconcile this. You guys are falling farther and farther into the gravity well of statism, and the rest of us don't want to go down there with you.

1. I went to Parochial schools all the way through. We were never taught creationism. Hence the outperforming.

2. I'm not limiting "free choice" by demanding the ban of private or religious schools. Creationism is what is actually fighting free choice because its pushing a religious tenet on a state-run entity. On top of that, this is being pushed on everyone in those areas by a strong religious lobby, where's the free choice there?

[Speaker to Animals]

Should we start teaching 911 Truth and Flat Earth Theories in certain sections of the country because people believe that? How about anti-vaccination theory? There are a lot of pockets of that around

Number one, you presume that this stuff is all Christian. That's just silly. Christian theologians were discussing evolution as a general concept in late antiquity. Most of these schools *do* teach evolution. Number two, the government schools fail to teach kids much of anything other than "evolution is right. Listen to the scientists and the democratic party." On the other hand, parochial schools do statistically greatly outperform government schools across the board, including in the sciences.

You have a prejudicial bias that causes you to want to fuck with the free choices of other Americans. I think a lot of this has to do with the yankee culture that dominates much of the Northeast, Great Lakes, and Pacific Coastline. Yankees were originally a puritan group who believed if they followed some perfect set of communitarian precepts they would establish a utopia on Earth. These days they replaced the original Puritanism with the radical secularism of progressive politics. But the behavior and biases remain the same.

Maybe we just need to break up? Because I don't see how we can reconcile this. You guys are falling farther and farther into the gravity well of statism, and the rest of us don't want to go down there with you.

1. I went to Parochial schools all the way through. We were never taught creationism. Hence the outperforming.

2. I'm not limiting "free choice" by demanding the ban of private or religious schools. Creationism is what is actually fighting free choice because its pushing a religious tenet on a state-run entity. On top of that, this is being pushed on everyone in those areas by a strong religious lobby, where's the free choice there?

The government took free choice when it decided to tax people so much money to fund these government school debacles that the average family could not afford to both pay the generous salary and perks provided to teacher unions / low-level bureaucrats and pay for tuition to the school of their choice.

Take away the taxation and make the schools voluntary, then. Otherwise, the only fix that gives people back their freedom of choice is to voucher the fuck up and let people send their kids to the school of their choices. You can get you democrat party-run government school and I can send my kids to Catholic school.

[SuburbanFarmer]

My kids will appreciate a well-flipped burger from yours. I'll make sure they learn to tip well.

[Okeefenokee]

Should we start teaching 911 Truth and Flat Earth Theories in certain sections of the country because people believe that? How about anti-vaccination theory? There are a lot of pockets of that around

Whine all you like. It's happening. The DoE is going away. Teacher's unions are going away. Your totalitarian regime is going away. You lost.

Yeah, I doubt that.

it's been a bad year for people's doubts.

[Ex-California]

Since when are teachers well paid?

[Okeefenokee]

Since when are teachers well paid?

Median salary is $57,200 for 9 months. That's $6,356/month, with full benefits, and salaries are rising.

Teachers are well compensated.

[Speaker to Animals]

Since when are teachers well paid?

When I lived in Cook county, my little two-bedroom condo cost me over seven thousand dollars in taxes each year.

Mostly to pay for this:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Townsh ... 354209.htm


https://adc.d211.org/wp-content/uploads ... 0256-1.pdf


Note the six digit salaries.

[Ex-California]

Since when are teachers well paid?

Median salary is $57,200 for 9 months. That's $6,356/month, with full benefits, and salaries are rising.

Teachers are well compensated.

Good. As they should be

Complain about the administrators, not the teachers.

I guess the days of the poverty wage teachers are finally over, and that's good thing.

[Ex-California]

Since when are teachers well paid?

When I lived in Cook county, my little two-bedroom condo cost me over seven thousand dollars in taxes each year.

Mostly to pay for this:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Townsh ... 354209.htm


https://adc.d211.org/wp-content/uploads ... 0256-1.pdf


Note the six digit salaries.

I have no problem with this.

[Okeefenokee]

Since when are teachers well paid?

When I lived in Cook county, my little two-bedroom condo cost me over seven thousand dollars in taxes each year.

Mostly to pay for this:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Townsh ... 354209.htm


https://adc.d211.org/wp-content/uploads ... 0256-1.pdf


Note the six digit salaries.

I have no problem with this.

Doesn't matter if you do. Your feelings on it have no meaning while there are public unions. If, somehow, it ever got to be that you did have a problem with it, tough shit.

Now, plenty of us think six figure salaries for teachers in failing schools is a problem.