THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:09 pm

DrYouth wrote:Go Sun god!
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:10 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:They don't even need to solve all their problems, they just need to get the economy going, get some heat back into that economy, and the rest will take care of itself, other than the liberals screaming Nuclear Hitler the whole time that is, but just ignore those idiots.
Not much risk of solving all their problems...

Just solve more problems than you create and you are solid.

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Don't even try to solve problems, that's not actually what government is for, simply incentivize the markets to come back to America, and then let the private sector solve the problems as they go.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by DrYouth » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:10 pm

Smitty-48 wrote: simply incentivize the market to come back to America, and then let the private sector solve the problems as they do.
And how would that not be solving a problem?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:13 pm

Flashbangs and rocks, tons of people getting arrested. Trumpzilla grows stronger.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:14 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote: simply incentivize the market to come back to America, and then let the private sector solve the problems as they do.
And how would that not be solving a problem?
"Solve" is to find answer or explanation to a problem, that is not what the government should do, the private sector will solve the problems, the government needs to get out of the way, for the government to attempt to solve the problems, to wit, find all answers and explanations, would be counterproductive.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by adwinistrator » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:14 pm

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adwinistrator wrote:I'm curious on their thoughts when Trump is speaking about economic populism. When Trump is saying that he will stop our wealth from going to industries overseas, and keep it here for the workers. In the world of multinational corporations, a message like that is anti-capitalist, and pro-labor economic populism.
I don't think that's the case, there's nothing anti-capitalist per se about economic populism, particularly when delivered by an avowed capitalist talking about the most capitalist country in the world, and I don't actually believe that the Multinationals oppose Donald Trump, in fact, they all seem to be rallying to him and getting in line. Mulitnationals will play the cards which are dealt, if Trump incentivizes them to do more business in the US, they'll go where the incentives are, just like the rest of us investors will.
When I listened to that speech, I was not thinking that what he really meant was "I will lower corporate taxes and remove regulations".

The whole campaign, he spoke about punishing companies that don't support American workers, but that's not anti-capitalist?


Help me out, I'm not trying to argue.

If you think Trump doesn't mean what he says, and that you support him because of what you think he and the GOP will do, I get it.

If you do support anti-capitalist populism, with anti-trade penalties and tariffs and fees, or want higher minimum wages or regulations to support American workers, than I understand the support.

If the hatred of the left is 95% about social and cultural BS, but you think some redistribution of wealth, or economic controls to minimize the wealth gap, are needed for a healthy long term economy, I could agree with a lot of your points.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:18 pm

Trump is going to lower corporate taxes, remove regulations and lower tariffs. Threatening tariffs on companies moving jobs overseas is a bluff designed to scare them into staying. First Trump feigns use of the stick and then presents a carrot, to make the carrot seem more desirable than it is on it's own, and then he gets more people to bite at a higher percentage of the time as a result. That's his MO, he calls it "The Art Of The Deal". Outrageous opening offers are not hard policy stances, bet that.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:20 pm

adwinistrator wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:I'm curious on their thoughts when Trump is speaking about economic populism. When Trump is saying that he will stop our wealth from going to industries overseas, and keep it here for the workers. In the world of multinational corporations, a message like that is anti-capitalist, and pro-labor economic populism.
I don't think that's the case, there's nothing anti-capitalist per se about economic populism, particularly when delivered by an avowed capitalist talking about the most capitalist country in the world, and I don't actually believe that the Multinationals oppose Donald Trump, in fact, they all seem to be rallying to him and getting in line. Mulitnationals will play the cards which are dealt, if Trump incentivizes them to do more business in the US, they'll go where the incentives are, just like the rest of us investors will.
When I listened to that speech, I was not thinking that what he really meant was "I will lower corporate taxes and remove regulations".

The whole campaign, he spoke about punishing companies that don't support American workers, but that's not anti-capitalist?
Punitive action against companies which attempt to game the system against the capitalist interests of the American economy, is not anti-capitalist, "bust the trusts" as it were, is in fact the most pro-capitalist slogan of them all.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:24 pm

No one knows what Trump is gonna do, just stop it, he is the most unpredictable public figure I can think of.

8 years ago I thought Obama was gonna end some foreign wars and close gitmo, and I believed he would be hard on wall st.

...

ZH post being updated with uploads of violence, protesting, property damage.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-2 ... tion-riots

1. The groups of asshole blocking law abiding citizens from getting into the inauguration pisses me off to no end, throw these losers in jail NOW

2. smashing starbucks et al windows -- what is the point?

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Ex-California » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:25 pm

Trump said something today about discovering patriotism and loving your country again today. As soon as I did this I saw the light. Sure, we have a multitude of problems, but hating the US and wishing we were European is never going to help anything.

Hence I am changing my avatar to our flag in celebration of MAGA today
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