The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

[SuburbanFarmer]

He lives in Ohio of all fucking places and constantly bashes white people, even though, he is white. It hurts my head sometimes.

As I said before, culture is important. Skin color is irrelevant. I don’t ‘bash white people’, I bash morons of any color.

[Speaker to Animals]

"White-a pig-a go home!" That shit is hilarious.

[de officiis]

I’m in record numerous times supporting immigration reform and dealing with/deporting illegals. But that’s about respect for the law, acknowledging our nation’s fundamental right to have borders, and not being a global dumping ground for dispossessed and desperate people who want to be anywhere else but have no interest in becoming Americans.

It doesn’t have shit to do with low-brow “Keep America White” bullshit. So when lowbrow idiots try to own an issue and turn it into race war fodder it’s worth pointing out that they’re a bunch of stupid liars that lack the courage of their convictions. They want to keep the country white, but they won’t honestly tell you how to do it when/if the domestic Hispanic population hits 51%.

Of course, there’s only two options and they can’t force more white people to appear ... so what will they do to the nonwhites?

There’s the answer you’ll never hear.

Birth rate decline is a serious issue regardless of color. Last time I checked we are doing better than some European countries, but nothing to cheer about. You can't sustain our massive system of military spending and social welfare benefits without a birth rate that at least replaces those who are dying, unless you are going to allow immigrants. So those who are concerned about the immigrant situation and birth rates should be carefully examining why more and more people are having fewer and fewer children. I would submit that those issues are tied more to our economic situation than anything else. Many people face unstable employment situations, two parents working, benefits are shitty and there is also structural unemployment. People are waiting longer to marry and have kids because most responsible people don't want to have a kid they can't afford, and want to provide a future for their kids. The cost of a college education is out of control and in desperate need of reform, yet the mantra we've been hearing for the past 25 - 30 years is that you must have a college degree to get a decent job. People will have more babies, and have them earlier, when there are quality jobs available that will allow a family to find affordable housing and survive on a single wage earner working full time and the other working no more than part time, and college costs are brought to heel. But from what I can see, neither of those things is likely to happen. All the indicators are that finding a good middle class job is going to be increasingly difficult due to changes in technology. (This is quaintly referred to as "disruption" by Silicon Valley.) No one in Congress really seems to care that much about college reform. So, if you don't address those things and you shut down immigration, you are writing a death warrant for the country. It may take awhile, but it will collapse. The end result of our current predicament is that large sectors of the midwest are going to be uninhabited, or inhabited by shockingly few people. It's not sustainable, and to me that is the basic problem that is lying at the root of much of this debate.

[LVH2]

If they want to be minorities in a Latino nation so much they could always move to Mexico. What's wrong with Mexico, guys?


It's hilarious that they keep going after having their asses handed to them repeatedly. Mr "I don't support making whites in America a minority but you're a racist for wanting to keep whites a majority" was probably the most amusing.

Nuke has a coherent view. You can't fill yours out.

What happens when we officially declare 40% of the population belongs to undesirable races?

They just like, ok cool? And everyone goes about their day?

Who determines which countries of origin are white and which individuals are white?

What happens if immigration policy alone doesn't preserve the narrow majority?

[Speaker to Animals]

If they want to be minorities in a Latino nation so much they could always move to Mexico. What's wrong with Mexico, guys?


It's hilarious that they keep going after having their asses handed to them repeatedly. Mr "I don't support making whites in America a minority but you're a racist for wanting to keep whites a majority" was probably the most amusing.

Nuke has a coherent view. You can't fill yours out.

What happens when we officially declare 40% of the population belongs to undesirable races?

They just like, ok cool? And everyone goes about their day?

Who determines which countries of origin are white and which individuals are white?

What happens if immigration policy alone doesn't preserve the narrow majority?

Why not just straw man my shit right up.

Accusing people of being Nazis, even in a roundabout way, simply because they want to stop the colonization of their country is neither productive nor a coherent argument. It is you has no coherent view.

[Speaker to Animals]

I’m in record numerous times supporting immigration reform and dealing with/deporting illegals. But that’s about respect for the law, acknowledging our nation’s fundamental right to have borders, and not being a global dumping ground for dispossessed and desperate people who want to be anywhere else but have no interest in becoming Americans.

It doesn’t have shit to do with low-brow “Keep America White” bullshit. So when lowbrow idiots try to own an issue and turn it into race war fodder it’s worth pointing out that they’re a bunch of stupid liars that lack the courage of their convictions. They want to keep the country white, but they won’t honestly tell you how to do it when/if the domestic Hispanic population hits 51%.

Of course, there’s only two options and they can’t force more white people to appear ... so what will they do to the nonwhites?

There’s the answer you’ll never hear.

Birth rate decline is a serious issue regardless of color. Last time I checked we are doing better than some European countries, but nothing to cheer about. You can't sustain our massive system of military spending and social welfare benefits without a birth rate that at least replaces those who are dying, unless you are going to allow immigrants. So those who are concerned about the immigrant situation and birth rates should be carefully examining why more and more people are having fewer and fewer children. I would submit that those issues are tied more to our economic situation than anything else. Many people face unstable employment situations, two parents working, benefits are shitty and there is also structural unemployment. People are waiting longer to marry and have kids because most responsible people don't want to have a kid they can't afford, and want to provide a future for their kids. The cost of a college education is out of control and in desperate need of reform, yet the mantra we've been hearing for the past 25 - 30 years is that you must have a college degree to get a decent job. People will have more babies, and have them earlier, when there are quality jobs available that will allow a family to find affordable housing and survive on a single wage earner working full time and the other working no more than part time, and college costs are brought to heel. But from what I can see, neither of those things is likely to happen. All the indicators are that finding a good middle class job is going to be increasingly difficult due to changes in technology. (This is quaintly referred to as "disruption" by Silicon Valley.) No one in Congress really seems to care that much about college reform. So, if you don't address those things and you shut down immigration, you are writing a death warrant for the country. It may take awhile, but it will collapse. The end result of our current predicament is that large sectors of the midwest are going to be uninhabited, or inhabited by shockingly few people. It's not sustainable, and to me that is the basic problem that is lying at the root of much of this debate.

Strong disagree. Automation and technological efficiency gains has already made that point irrelevant. We don't actually need any of these people. Those fighting to open the floodgates even more, and not let us remove all the illegals, are not doing so because we somehow need millions of people bankrupting our welfare system, but because they largely want to see whites a demographic minority or worse.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

@StA

I am having a hard time deciding if your whole online existence is the genius schtick of creating a perfect parody of what a far right-wing SJW would look like for effect (which is really quite a brilliant way to argue against the excesses of progressive thought), or if you actually think playing victim, and claiming people are unfairly tarring your good name isn't completely disingenuous.

Because you really can't argue that you want a nation of race-based laws for the preservation of your culture against a cabal of minorities who are responsible for the nation's ills, and then complain when people point out that that looks suspiciously like Reich talking points.

If you want to claim that you just want immigration, tax, and welfare reform, then quit straw manning yourself by droning on and on about demographic majorities when they have nothing to do with the actual policy changes you are advocating.

[LVH2]

I haven't called you a Nazi. Nazis had the camps, and the fuhur and all that. However, if you are going to have a race based immigration system, to keep the white majority, those seem like questions you have to answer. I don't know how you could possibly do this without deciding who is officially white, for example. Also, the non-whites are bound to have a pretty strong reaction to such a thing. This has nothing to do with Nazism.


On the other hand, this highlights the danger of what Europe is doing. Once a group comprises 10% or 15% or whatever of the population, many natives, most citizens, it becomes a very tricky situation to try to stop it there. If it turns out to not be so hot having fundamentalists of a foreign religion everywhere, it'll be pretty tough to tell a third generation Brit or German he isn't a Brit or German, or that he is a second class one.

[StCapps]

Because you really can't argue that you want a nation of race-based laws for the preservation of your culture against a cabal of minorities who are responsible for the nation's ills, and then complain when people point out that that looks suspiciously like Reich talking points.

Yes you can argue for preserving a culture based on jus sanguinis, but not around SIFCLF's who go Godwin's Law on the drop of a hat. They'll accuse you of using Third Reich talking points, if you merely disagree with them, even a little, their mind reflexively jumps to the worse case scenario. If you try to tell them a White Ethno State won't cause the sky to fall, they dismiss you because that type of scenario does not compute in their brains, it isn't dystopic enough for them and they refuse to think of any Ethno State scenarios where the Sky Isn't Falling, fuck reality.

Notice how the refuse to acknowledge Quebec and want to write it off as a unlikely scenario for a Ethno State and Nazi Germany is the more likely outcome.

[K@th]

Notice how the refuse to acknowledge Quebec and want to write it off as a unlikely scenario for a Ethno State and Nazi Germany is the more likely outcome.

Quebec has been acknowledged at least 1/2 as many times as you've mentioned it, so fairly often. The problem is with your analogy. Quebec was always demographically all white. We can't put the genie back in the bottle. We are not all white and you have offered zero practical solutions as to how we get to Quebec levels of whiteness without going dystopian. And no, there will be no notwithstanding clause. That's a fail. Won't happen.

StA is already 100% free to move to Utah. That's not what he wants. He wants the brown people gone.