#fyrefestival

[jbird4049]

What is your opinion on the Southern Strategy?

If you mean southern north America, it appears to have worked.

It did political speaking.

[Okeefenokee]

What is your opinion on the Southern Strategy?

If you mean southern north America, it appears to have worked.

It did political speaking.

The southern strategy won Oregon?

[jbird4049]

Some Two Minute Hate with a side serving of Hippy Punching. Cool.

Gopclub, my observations about the political system is not to smear you as a racist.

Okeefenokee, and gopclub, I'm the one who gave you the Wikipedia link.

The article shows an almost unrelieved wall of majority votes for Democratic state governors and Presidental candidates from just before the Civil War to 1964.

After that with Democratic President LBJ's pushing through Civil Rights legislation, the violence, riots, burned cities and some political assassinations, and the Hippies, people were receptive to RIchard Nixon's Southern Strategy. So in 1968, goodbye to the Democratic Solid South.

The Democratic Party mostly went kaput as a winning party in the South after a couple of election cycle except mainly for Southern Presidental candidates Carter, and Clinton, with Obama winning some because nobody wanted a repeat of George the Younger just then. As it stands, the Democratic Party in the South is like the Republican Party in California.

[Okeefenokee]

Some Two Minute Hate with a side serving of Hippy Punching. Cool.

Gopclub, my observations about the political system is not to smear you as a racist.

Okeefenokee, and gopclub, I'm the one who gave you the Wikipedia link.

The article shows an almost unrelieved wall of majority votes for Democratic state governors and Presidental candidates from just before the Civil War to 1964.

After that with Democratic President LBJ's pushing through Civil Rights legislation, the violence, riots, burned cities and some political assassinations, and the Hippies, people were receptive to RIchard Nixon's Southern Strategy. So in 1968, goodbye to the Democratic Solid South.

The Democratic Party mostly went kaput as a winning party in the South after a couple of election cycle except mainly for Southern Presidental candidates Carter, and Clinton, with Obama winning some because nobody wanted a repeat of George the Younger just then. As it stands, the Democratic Party in the South is like the Republican Party in California.

You didn't read anything I posted. Clown. The south hasn't been solid for a hundred years. Welcome to the loon club. Penner has your orders.

[Hastur]

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[Hastur]

[jbird4049]

Some Two Minute Hate with a side serving of Hippy Punching. Cool.

Gopclub, my observations about the political system is not to smear you as a racist.

Okeefenokee, and gopclub, I'm the one who gave you the Wikipedia link.

The article shows an almost unrelieved wall of majority votes for Democratic state governors and Presidental candidates from just before the Civil War to 1964.

After that with Democratic President LBJ's pushing through Civil Rights legislation, the violence, riots, burned cities and some political assassinations, and the Hippies, people were receptive to RIchard Nixon's Southern Strategy. So in 1968, goodbye to the Democratic Solid South.

The Democratic Party mostly went kaput as a winning party in the South after a couple of election cycle except mainly for Southern Presidental candidates Carter, and Clinton, with Obama winning some because nobody wanted a repeat of George the Younger just then. As it stands, the Democratic Party in the South is like the Republican Party in California.

You didn't read anything I posted. Clown. The south hasn't been solid for a hundred years. Welcome to the loon club. Penner has your orders.

OMG! More insults and hippie punching! Thanks, it's nice getting gratuitous put-downs. That's not going to win any arguments although it might drive people into the other side. Which is good for me.

If the South almost without exception voted straight mainline Democratic for a century, and started to switch to white supremacist/States rights factions in the 50-60s once civil rights started to be a serious issue again, finally switching mostly Republican after the 1964 Civil Rights Acts, and Nixon's law and order dog whistling act in 1968 to where almost all governors elected and Presidents getting the majority vote were/are Republicans after 1972. Indeed, the only Democratic Presidental candidates that did get chosen were Southern.

That's what the article shows. Solid to about 1952. Wobbly until 1968 when it started collapsing into mainly solid Republican bastion it is today from '72 on.

[Okeefenokee]

If the South almost without exception voted straight mainline Democratic for a century, and started to switch to white supremacist/States rights factions in the 50-60s once civil rights started to be a serious issue again, finally switching mostly Republican after the 1964 Civil Rights Acts, and Nixon's law and order dog whistling act in 1968 to where almost all governors elected and Presidents getting the majority vote were/are Republicans after 1972. Indeed, the only Democratic Presidental candidates that did get chosen were Southern.

That's what the article shows. Solid to about 1952. Wobbly until 1968 when it started collapsing into mainly solid Republican bastion it is today from '72 on.

Like I said, you didn't read my response. The cracks started showing in the 20's, and had nothing to do with civil rights. There were numerous divides and flips from Republican to Democrat in the south over the entire past century, and the reasons behind them are numerous.

You are perpetuating a myth, an idiotic myth, that southern politics has never been about anything other than racism, that the two parties decided one day to switch places on who was going to be racist, and that the south switched sides to Republican to stick with the racists.

It's fucking stupid. Just as stupid as last November when the Democrats and their MSM mouthpieces decided that the states that flipped for Trump in the great blue wall did so because they suddenly became racists.

It's a ridiculous belief. Anyone espousing it deserves to be ridiculed.

[clubgop]

Some Two Minute Hate with a side serving of Hippy Punching. Cool.

Gopclub, my observations about the political system is not to smear you as a racist.

Okeefenokee, and gopclub, I'm the one who gave you the Wikipedia link.

The article shows an almost unrelieved wall of majority votes for Democratic state governors and Presidental candidates from just before the Civil War to 1964.

After that with Democratic President LBJ's pushing through Civil Rights legislation, the violence, riots, burned cities and some political assassinations, and the Hippies, people were receptive to RIchard Nixon's Southern Strategy. So in 1968, goodbye to the Democratic Solid South.

The Democratic Party mostly went kaput as a winning party in the South after a couple of election cycle except mainly for Southern Presidental candidates Carter, and Clinton, with Obama winning some because nobody wanted a repeat of George the Younger just then. As it stands, the Democratic Party in the South is like the Republican Party in California.

You didn't read anything I posted. Clown. The south hasn't been solid for a hundred years. Welcome to the loon club. Penner has your orders.

OMG! More insults and hippie punching! Thanks, it's nice getting gratuitous put-downs. That's not going to win any arguments although it might drive people into the other side. Which is good for me.

If the South almost without exception voted straight mainline Democratic for a century, and started to switch to white supremacist/States rights factions in the 50-60s once civil rights started to be a serious issue again, finally switching mostly Republican after the 1964 Civil Rights Acts, and Nixon's law and order dog whistling act in 1968 to where almost all governors elected and Presidents getting the majority vote were/are Republicans after 1972. Indeed, the only Democratic Presidental candidates that did get chosen were Southern.

That's what the article shows. Solid to about 1952. Wobbly until 1968 when it started collapsing into mainly solid Republican bastion it is today from '72 on.

You talk as if Hippy don't deserve to be punched, they do. You are totally wrong on the south when it come to Governors, like 2 or 3 southern states went Republican in the 70's rhe rest not until the beginning of the next century, ypu jave to show your work. As for your warning, save it. Your cry bully SJW ways are over. We are going for the throat. Forget the south, look at the west or any place not on the coasts. Your not a national party. Take some responsibility you millennial sjw bitch.

[jbird4049]

If the South almost without exception voted straight mainline Democratic for a century, and started to switch to white supremacist/States rights factions in the 50-60s once civil rights started to be a serious issue again, finally switching mostly Republican after the 1964 Civil Rights Acts, and Nixon's law and order dog whistling act in 1968 to where almost all governors elected and Presidents getting the majority vote were/are Republicans after 1972. Indeed, the only Democratic Presidental candidates that did get chosen were Southern.

That's what the article shows. Solid to about 1952. Wobbly until 1968 when it started collapsing into mainly solid Republican bastion it is today from '72 on.

Like I said, you didn't read my response. The cracks started showing in the 20's, and had nothing to do with civil rights. There were numerous divides and flips from Republican to Democrat in the south over the entire past century, and the reasons behind them are numerous.

You are perpetuating a myth, an idiotic myth, that southern politics has never been about anything other than racism, that the two parties decided one day to switch places on who was going to be racist, and that the south switched sides to Republican to stick with the racists.

It's fucking stupid. Just as stupid as last November when the Democrats and their MSM mouthpieces decided that the states that flipped for Trump in the great blue wall did so because they suddenly became racists.

It's a ridiculous belief. Anyone espousing it deserves to be ridiculed.

I read it, and then after that response, reread it. I didn't change my mind. Just because one doesn't agree with someone doesn't agree with someone else even after seeing the same thing does not mean somebody is being malicious. It usually just means a difference in interpretation. Few things are straight black and white. They are usually some shade of gray.

And too me, it is a very very dark shade of gray that says the South was solidly Democratic before 1964 and after 1972 was solidly Republican with the same people moving from one party to another. More, it was a two decade long event that sped up after 1964 when the national Democratic Party became the active backer of civil rights and the national Republican Party didn't. Although Goldwater was a supporter of civil rights, he didn't believe in using the national government, and especially the army, to do the supporting.

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And yes, saying that the Trump win is all about the racism is annoyingly stupid, but it is a good excuse for the neoliberal establishment (the neoconservatives too) not to look at themselves.