The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by DBTrek » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:44 am

doc_loliday wrote:Gonna put a couple lemon slices in it too. Keto approved.
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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by doc_loliday » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:47 am

I honestly don't know why I associate with such riffraff.

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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by apeman » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:08 am

DBTrek wrote:
doc_loliday wrote:Gonna put a couple lemon slices in it too. Keto approved.
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Reminds me of when Marie Antoinette declared "let them eat Amazon Fresh delivery service"

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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:38 am

DBTrek wrote:
doc_loliday wrote:Carbonated water, club soda, that sort of thing. I drink it all the time. If you like drinking beer, it's nice having a fizzy drink. I bought one of those SodaStreams and make my own.
Well . .. aren't you just one bourgeois motherf*cker?




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i'm sure i'll be there soon enough. the bottles i buy are about a buck fifty each.
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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:39 am

doc_loliday wrote:Gonna put a couple lemon slices in it too. Keto approved.
put lime in mine.
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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:59 pm

apeman wrote:
DBTrek wrote:
doc_loliday wrote:Gonna put a couple lemon slices in it too. Keto approved.
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Reminds me of when Marie Antoinette declared "let them eat Amazon Fresh delivery service"
:worship: :clap: :lol:

Tell them to have their drones work a bit of overtime.

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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by Ex-California » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:08 pm

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California wrote:I can tell if I'm in ketosis by the taste in my mouth the most. According to my wife I always stink but other people notice a change in their BO
That's kinda gross.

What is the taste?
Kinda metallic kinda gross. Its like that bad breath feel you have when you're hungry, but not the one you have when you wake up.

/r/keto people have a better description
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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:46 pm

Interesting comparison of my intermittent fasting and DB's keto diet.



Interesting pros and cons.

I wonder what happens if you do both?

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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:52 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Interesting comparison of my intermittent fasting and DB's keto diet.
I wonder what happens if you do both?
Glycogen in the liver lasts ~4-6 hrs, so after it's gone, you're Keto.
Food in the intestine lasts ~40 hrs.

To Keto, you need to use up the liver reserve, but glucose is going to be pulled from the intestine first, so if you're low-carb, there's not much in the intestine. The longer you fast, the longer you're burning fat after the glycogen is gone.

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Re: The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:58 pm

Glycogen is pretty much gone when I do fasted cardio. It's been at least 16 hours since I ate anything, and probably more like 20 hours since I ate a lot of carbs anyway. It's not quite the same as the ketosis state you get into in a keto diet, but it's not far off from that. Studies show fasted cardio will burn up fat pretty damned fast.

I don't think the two things are incompatible, though. A fasting diet is not really a diet in that it doesn't tell you what to eat. It only tells you to eat within a certain window. So if you are doing a keto diet, you could just put everything into a 6-8 hour window and schedule your cardio for before you break the fast.

I don't do resistance training fasted, though I know people who do. I do way too much volume for that. I have tried it and was totally wiped out. My lifts were severely compromised.

The main benefit I think to the fasting regimen is that it floods your body with HGH. So if you want to build muscle, that's your best bet.

I suppose you could combine them to get the HGH (fasting) and the improved brain function (keto).

I worry that, without carbs, my performance in the gym would decline, though, and that would lead to slower gains.