The Left Does not Reason

[clubgop]

Secondly, Bernie would have won, which I think you have acknowledged. Trump has a poor approval rating and won by defeating a super-humanly bad candidate who ran an unbelievably retarded campaign.

If people are rejecting the tactics of social division, which is a lot of what Hillary ran on, that's good for everyone, right and left

Not a bad post LVH but this point is where the rub lies. Bernie lost and would have lost because he if he were to win the nomination he would have to run that kind of campaign he would have to kow to those groups. It is the main thrust of my argument. For the time being the wider left is held hostage by these identity groups and thier toxic politics. Make all the excuses you want it is a fact. Look at Bernie, early on in his campaign at a rally in Seattle, what happened? BLM seized the microphone took over and Bernie totally withered and let them say thier crap because he knew if he did the right thing and controlled the situation and shit these hacklers down sure he would have the support of 60-70% of the electorate but they dont vote in Democratic primaries. People are rejecting this social division crap but the left isnt they are doubling down. Stop defending them

[SuburbanFarmer]

Im 23 years old stuck in between Uzbekistan and Afghanistan with a lot of down time on my hands

I feel like so much was explained right here. You make a whole lot more sense now.

Yes I was serving my country in a 3rd world country while you were taking your dirty uncircumcised, cause you hate religion, dick inside of some poor girl causing her to get a UTI which is treated with a broad spectrum antibiotic which in turn counters the hormone based oral contraceptive she was taking. Because you kidnapped this gril in a basement, because that kind of thing is just what you do in Cleaveland, she had to have sex woth your 3rd world dick again but this time she got pregnant. So you could raise another generation of people that hate American veterans. But Im the bad guy. Sure go with that if it makes you feel better.

mmmkay. Shot any 5-year-olds this week? Did you defend us from a wanton horde of Bad People there, on the other side of the world? How many oil barrels you figure your buddy's life is worth?

Fuck you too, kid. You're too stupid to know what you don't know.

[DrYouth]

It's already been proven that Soros gave black bloc fifty grand to get their people to the location. But more importantly, the DNC was just exposed paying them a similar amount to do the exact same thing. There also are items on the Hillary Clinton campaign books paying off the woman who subcontracted the work out. They were just caught red handed paying these guys to do this in Chicago.

These aren't random people that happen to show up. This is basically a democratic party militia, funded and organized by the democratic party via their subcontractors and donors.

Where has this been proven?
Serious question...
I want to get to the bottom of this Soros thing.

[clubgop]

Fuck you too, kid. You're too stupid to know what you don't know.

Uh huh, still waiting on that party switch argument. Still waiting on all that science that explains your hoplophobia. I can have a substantive argument just not with you or your limey child fucking friend because you never engage in such a thing. So keep coming at me with the dumb shit, Ill shut you down and get under skin while I engage in substantive conversation with LVH. This syphalitic fevered dream in which you believe every veteran is too stupid is not seeving you well you should seek treatment. But then again I'm not a medical professional...oh wait.

[clubgop]

It's already been proven that Soros gave black bloc fifty grand to get their people to the location. But more importantly, the DNC was just exposed paying them a similar amount to do the exact same thing. There also are items on the Hillary Clinton campaign books paying off the woman who subcontracted the work out. They were just caught red handed paying these guys to do this in Chicago.

These aren't random people that happen to show up. This is basically a democratic party militia, funded and organized by the democratic party via their subcontractors and donors.

Where has this been proven?
Serious question...
I want to get to the bottom of this Soros thing.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbar ... soros/amp/

“

According to its most recent 990 tax form, Alliance for Global Justice (AfGJ) received $2.2 million in funding for the fiscal year ending in March 2016. One of the group’s biggest donors is the Tides Foundation, a non-profit funded by billionaire progressive philanthropist George Soros. Tides gave AfGJ $50,000.”

[Penner]

Man this blew up since my blunder post. Only read last 3 pages. Sorry, I'm on the can for just a few minutes before work.

I wanted to say, comparing the Alt-Right to SJWs was an error, I think. SJWs=the religious right. Dogmatic to their bones. Intolerant. They believe that anybody who does not conform to their dogma is harming or oppressing them. Those who disagree with them have made a conscious choice to be on the side of pure evil (Satan, Nazism) Heretofore normal human behavior is actually grave moral wrongs. Etc.

The alt right is, as I said, more of a skeptical movement. But, people who are skeptical and "open minded" can also go off the rails and wind up believing crazy things pretty easily. The Alt-Right's counterpart on the left doesn't have a name, but if I had to pick someone, it would be Jello Biafra and the Dead Kennedys. Hilariously ridiculed Reaganism, the orthodoxy of the day, went after the right's sacred cows, etc. etc. But, that sort of detachment can lead you to taking up some crazy views, which he did. But, the good part is someone like that is never really wed to their views.

Obviously, these are very rough accounts of large groups of different people and don't apply perfectly.

Which leads to the folly of trying to create this dogma of a monolithic left, which is part of a more SJW/Religious right style of thinking. Like putting antitfa in the same bucket as the Dems. I think antifa is mostly anarchists. The Dems are believiers in big government, and also corporate stooges. These are very different things.

The Dems aren't really leftist at all, except, arguably on a few social issues. Depends on how you think the term leftist should be used. But I don't know how you can construe Hillary, a Wal-mart lawyer who favors mass incarceration and, like most Dems, operates mostly on behalf of corporations (except tobacco companies and a few others), and is a hawk who wants to toss Kissinger's salad, as a leftist.

The FDR dems were fairly leftist. Bernie is as well.

Anyway, a political party is just that. It's an affiliation of people trying to get elected. If they are from Mississippi in 1955, they might be super racist. If they are from SF in 2016 they will be very friendly to the rich and socially liberal. Oftentimes, they will be loyal to whoever gives them the most cash, which will vary with the laws. ATM, politicians can get speaking fees, seven figure fake jobs from those they were meant to regulate when they leave office, and of course their campaigns are mostly funded by big business. So, that's what we get.


Once you start up with these stories, it's easy to write. You find some bad actors. Rioters. Cops who kill unjustly or brutalize. You start lumping them all in with the bad team. You figure out some reasons the ones on your team were either justified, or exceptions to the rule. Anybody who can't see why you're good and they are bad must be incapable of reason. I mean, look at all the silly dogma they believe.

Good job, LVH on your post (like you I come here when I have the time to).

[Penner]

It's already been proven that Soros gave black bloc fifty grand to get their people to the location. But more importantly, the DNC was just exposed paying them a similar amount to do the exact same thing. There also are items on the Hillary Clinton campaign books paying off the woman who subcontracted the work out. They were just caught red handed paying these guys to do this in Chicago.

These aren't random people that happen to show up. This is basically a democratic party militia, funded and organized by the democratic party via their subcontractors and donors.

Where has this been proven?
Serious question...
I want to get to the bottom of this Soros thing.

I have heard this on this board and on DCF. It's basically a right-winged conspiracy theory that tries to explain why so many people are protesting Trump- other than that a lot of people fear/hate the guy.

[clubgop]

Man this blew up since my blunder post. Only read last 3 pages. Sorry, I'm on the can for just a few minutes before work.

I wanted to say, comparing the Alt-Right to SJWs was an error, I think. SJWs=the religious right. Dogmatic to their bones. Intolerant. They believe that anybody who does not conform to their dogma is harming or oppressing them. Those who disagree with them have made a conscious choice to be on the side of pure evil (Satan, Nazism) Heretofore normal human behavior is actually grave moral wrongs. Etc.

The alt right is, as I said, more of a skeptical movement. But, people who are skeptical and "open minded" can also go off the rails and wind up believing crazy things pretty easily. The Alt-Right's counterpart on the left doesn't have a name, but if I had to pick someone, it would be Jello Biafra and the Dead Kennedys. Hilariously ridiculed Reaganism, the orthodoxy of the day, went after the right's sacred cows, etc. etc. But, that sort of detachment can lead you to taking up some crazy views, which he did. But, the good part is someone like that is never really wed to their views.

Obviously, these are very rough accounts of large groups of different people and don't apply perfectly.

Which leads to the folly of trying to create this dogma of a monolithic left, which is part of a more SJW/Religious right style of thinking. Like putting antitfa in the same bucket as the Dems. I think antifa is mostly anarchists. The Dems are believiers in big government, and also corporate stooges. These are very different things.

The Dems aren't really leftist at all, except, arguably on a few social issues. Depends on how you think the term leftist should be used. But I don't know how you can construe Hillary, a Wal-mart lawyer who favors mass incarceration and, like most Dems, operates mostly on behalf of corporations (except tobacco companies and a few others), and is a hawk who wants to toss Kissinger's salad, as a leftist.

The FDR dems were fairly leftist. Bernie is as well.

Anyway, a political party is just that. It's an affiliation of people trying to get elected. If they are from Mississippi in 1955, they might be super racist. If they are from SF in 2016 they will be very friendly to the rich and socially liberal. Oftentimes, they will be loyal to whoever gives them the most cash, which will vary with the laws. ATM, politicians can get speaking fees, seven figure fake jobs from those they were meant to regulate when they leave office, and of course their campaigns are mostly funded by big business. So, that's what we get.


Once you start up with these stories, it's easy to write. You find some bad actors. Rioters. Cops who kill unjustly or brutalize. You start lumping them all in with the bad team. You figure out some reasons the ones on your team were either justified, or exceptions to the rule. Anybody who can't see why you're good and they are bad must be incapable of reason. I mean, look at all the silly dogma they believe.

Good job, LVH on your post (like you I come here when I have the time to).

Look at them try to smokescreen the ass kicking they are receiving. They keep ratcheting down thier lies and falsehoods. First it was all the same because they could copy and paste a police blotter then we point out look they are being held responsible for thier behavior while left is being excused and funded. So then the argument became they are the same cause southern strategy. I blow that myth to kingdom come so now we have the current iteration where "Bernie would have won." But he didn't win BECAUSE HE LOST, his own party fucked him over almost every chance they got. And what did he do in response? He took his beach house money and shut the fuck up. Which is exactly what you bitches are going to do. The SJW and corporate establishment are going to cuck and fuck you and you, GCF, Jbird, Monty, DrY, and LVH will take it because where else you gonna go? Youll excuse monger and ratchet to another lie.

[clubgop]

It's already been proven that Soros gave black bloc fifty grand to get their people to the location. But more importantly, the DNC was just exposed paying them a similar amount to do the exact same thing. There also are items on the Hillary Clinton campaign books paying off the woman who subcontracted the work out. They were just caught red handed paying these guys to do this in Chicago.

These aren't random people that happen to show up. This is basically a democratic party militia, funded and organized by the democratic party via their subcontractors and donors.

Where has this been proven?
Serious question...
I want to get to the bottom of this Soros thing.

I have heard this on this board and on DCF. It's basically a right-winged conspiracy theory that tries to explain why so many people are protesting Trump- other than that a lot of people fear/hate the guy.

Bitch I posted the article. It is public knowledge it is on tax forms. I know it requires research and reading beyond your bubble media world but it is there. Yes everyone fears Trump but your candidate was beloved we are all just misgyonist. Keep on losing bitches.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's already been proven that Soros gave black bloc fifty grand to get their people to the location. But more importantly, the DNC was just exposed paying them a similar amount to do the exact same thing. There also are items on the Hillary Clinton campaign books paying off the woman who subcontracted the work out. They were just caught red handed paying these guys to do this in Chicago.

These aren't random people that happen to show up. This is basically a democratic party militia, funded and organized by the democratic party via their subcontractors and donors.

Where has this been proven?
Serious question...
I want to get to the bottom of this Soros thing.

I have heard this on this board and on DCF. It's basically a right-winged conspiracy theory that tries to explain why so many people are protesting Trump- other than that a lot of people fear/hate the guy.

WTF?

It's on tax returns and accounting records. Project Veritas has democratic party operatives admitting they do it on camera. Where the fuck have you been for the past year? Holy shit. No wonder the DNC gets away with murder. You people are oblivious.