Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:51 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:51 pm

That is simply not true, especially when it is framed as bribery. Any refutation is simply a "no true scotsman" argument. Even Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said that President Donald Trump had "arguably walked into the area of bribery" with his actions toward Ukraine, pointing out that it appears to be "an impeachable offense." So now he's a Leftist Tool too?
Https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-legal ... se-1461554

The Democratic center really did not want this, knowing it would simply unite the right. Pelosi didn't, I certainly didn't. But Trump went beyond the pale, to where not investigating was abdicating legal responsibility.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:52 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 pm

No educated, informed opinion involves calling this impeachable. Oh, the witnesses aren't lying when they say it is their opinion this is what Trump meant, but people's opinions, based on hearsay, do not prove anything.

The only reason this has gotten as far as it has is because Democrats demanded impeachment the day Trump was elected. Russia, Russia, Russia blew up in the faces, so given the election is fast approaching they had to reach for something, anything to use as an excuse. Unfortunately for Democrats this is even weaker than Russia. They look like fools, but the Dem politicians and their MSM allies are doing all they can to try and convince American voters that this turd they cooked up is chocolate cake. This is nothing more than a 2020 campaign stunt.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:52 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:51 pm

That is simply not true, especially when it is framed as bribery. Any refutation is simply a "no true scotsman" argument. Even Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said that President Donald Trump had "arguably walked into the area of bribery" with his actions toward Ukraine, pointing out that it appears to be "an impeachable offense." So now he's a Leftist Tool too?
Https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-legal ... se-1461554

The Democratic center really did not want this, knowing it would simply unite the right. Pelosi didn't, I certainly didn't. But Trump went beyond the pale, to where not investigating was abdicating legal responsibility.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:53 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 pm

No educated, informed opinion involves calling this impeachable. Oh, the witnesses aren't lying when they say it is their opinion this is what Trump meant, but people's opinions, based on hearsay, do not prove anything.

The only reason this has gotten as far as it has is because Democrats demanded impeachment the day Trump was elected. Russia, Russia, Russia blew up in the faces, so given the election is fast approaching they had to reach for something, anything to use as an excuse. Unfortunately for Democrats this is even weaker than Russia. They look like fools, but the Dem politicians and their MSM allies are doing all they can to try and convince American voters that this turd they cooked up is chocolate cake. This is nothing more than a 2020 campaign stunt.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:53 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:51 pm

That is simply not true, especially when it is framed as bribery. Any refutation is simply a "no true scotsman" argument. Even Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said that President Donald Trump had "arguably walked into the area of bribery" with his actions toward Ukraine, pointing out that it appears to be "an impeachable offense." So now he's a Leftist Tool too?
Https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-legal ... se-1461554

The Democratic center really did not want this, knowing it would simply unite the right. Pelosi didn't, I certainly didn't. But Trump went beyond the pale, to where not investigating was abdicating legal responsibility.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:54 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 pm

No educated, informed opinion involves calling this impeachable. Oh, the witnesses aren't lying when they say it is their opinion this is what Trump meant, but people's opinions, based on hearsay, do not prove anything.

The only reason this has gotten as far as it has is because Democrats demanded impeachment the day Trump was elected. Russia, Russia, Russia blew up in the faces, so given the election is fast approaching they had to reach for something, anything to use as an excuse. Unfortunately for Democrats this is even weaker than Russia. They look like fools, but the Dem politicians and their MSM allies are doing all they can to try and convince American voters that this turd they cooked up is chocolate cake. This is nothing more than a 2020 campaign stunt.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:54 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:51 pm

That is simply not true, especially when it is framed as bribery. Any refutation is simply a "no true scotsman" argument. Even Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said that President Donald Trump had "arguably walked into the area of bribery" with his actions toward Ukraine, pointing out that it appears to be "an impeachable offense." So now he's a Leftist Tool too?
Https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-legal ... se-1461554

The Democratic center really did not want this, knowing it would simply unite the right. Pelosi didn't, I certainly didn't. But Trump went beyond the pale, to where not investigating was abdicating legal responsibility.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:55 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 pm

No educated, informed opinion involves calling this impeachable. Oh, the witnesses aren't lying when they say it is their opinion this is what Trump meant, but people's opinions, based on hearsay, do not prove anything.

The only reason this has gotten as far as it has is because Democrats demanded impeachment the day Trump was elected. Russia, Russia, Russia blew up in the faces, so given the election is fast approaching they had to reach for something, anything to use as an excuse. Unfortunately for Democrats this is even weaker than Russia. They look like fools, but the Dem politicians and their MSM allies are doing all they can to try and convince American voters that this turd they cooked up is chocolate cake. This is nothing more than a 2020 campaign stunt.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:55 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:51 pm

That is simply not true, especially when it is framed as bribery. Any refutation is simply a "no true scotsman" argument. Even Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said that President Donald Trump had "arguably walked into the area of bribery" with his actions toward Ukraine, pointing out that it appears to be "an impeachable offense." So now he's a Leftist Tool too?
Https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-legal ... se-1461554

The Democratic center really did not want this, knowing it would simply unite the right. Pelosi didn't, I certainly didn't. But Trump went beyond the pale, to where not investigating was abdicating legal responsibility.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:56 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 pm
No educated, informed opinion involves calling this impeachable. Oh, the witnesses aren't lying when they say it is their opinion this is what Trump meant, but people's opinions, based on hearsay, do not prove anything.

The only reason this has gotten as far as it has is because Democrats demanded impeachment the day Trump was elected. Russia, Russia, Russia blew up in the faces, so given the election is fast approaching they had to reach for something, anything to use as an excuse. Unfortunately for Democrats this is even weaker than Russia. They look like fools, but the Dem politicians and their MSM allies are doing all they can to try and convince American voters that this turd they cooked up is chocolate cake. This is nothing more than a 2020 campaign stunt.
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