Finland - No Homeless

[DBTrek]

Perhaps a property deed or lease agreement could be part of the paperwork one has to show officers during random police stops. If they don't have their papers, haul em off to jail or the looney bin.

Or, you know, when the cops are forced to respond to a bum who wreaks like cat piss getting into a violent altercation with his reflection in the train window, they can drop him off at the loony farm for evaluation by a psychiatrist.

... an evaluation you say? Like to determine if he’s mentally ill, disabled, or ...dare I say ... capable?

Jeez, you can’t swing a ratty backpack in this place without hitting on ways to determine whether or not someone is capable. And to think, just pages ago the entire liberal wing of the board was absolutely flummoxed as to how it could possibly be done.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Depression can be a mental illness. Do you get bennies if you are depressed?

A lot of people say alcohol abuse and being overweight are tied to mental illness. Bennies for lushes and fatties?

I doubt you are going to get much argument from lefty progressives if you want to tie welfare to capability, and capability to 'mental illness,' but I would bet even money that isn't what you want, DB.

[DBTrek]

I understand you’re making ridiculous assertions because you feel like you need to say something at this point, HM, but it’s not making your performance any stronger.

Going from “How could humans ever be determined capable?” to “So you’re saying you want handouts for depressed people and drunks” isn’t helping you, dawg.

[jediuser598]

One of the people living there, Melissa Burns, said she and her boyfriend came to Seattle from West Virginia because “we appreciate Seattle's liberal vibe.”

Burns and her boyfriend were previously contacted by Seattle’s Navigation Team -- a group of outreach workers teamed with specially trained Seattle police -- last month when they lived a block away.

"We don't want to change our lifestyle to fit their requirements," she said.

The city navigation team said only 37 percent of homeless people they contact accept offers of shelter. . . .

Burns and her boyfriend said they’d move along when that happens. But they don’t expect to go far – possibly two blocks away, which is similar to their last move.

When Burns was asked earlier this month if she would accept permanent housing offers, she said she wouldn’t likely accept them.

"We intend to stay here," she said. "This is the solution to the homeless problem. We want autonomy, right here."

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/homele ... /729916774

“But how can we know if they’re capable?!?!”

Liberalism.
Not even once.

Since you know a lot about this, what kind of permanent housing offers does Seattle's Navigation Team make?

You're bringing a lot of emotion into this, think of this like a condition instead of say "well they're taking from the system, and giving nothing back." Some might be definitely doing that, but think about the effect of each "remedy" you purpose.

I'm not saying that homelessness in Seattle isn't a tough and complex problem, and that parts of your solution seem right, but what you seem to be aiming at, continually here, is that there are simple solutions, and that those simple solutions just aren't being implemented because of bleeding heart liberals. Is that your angle here?

And look, honestly if you're not taking this to your local government, if you're not going to the city council meetings or whatever local government entity is addressing this, then you don't really care. Do you even vote? If you don't, if you don't do either of these things, then it's just so much hot air. These are your local issues, local issues that you, DBtrek, can have an impact on. So, go out there and do it, and tell us how it goes.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I understand you’re making ridiculous assertions because you feel like you need to say something at this point, HM, but it’s not making your performance any stronger.

Going from “How could humans ever be determined capable?” to “So you’re saying you want handouts for depressed people and drunks” isn’t helping you, dawg.

The left is stupid for not recognizing that mental illness is the qualifying factor for welfarwe. The left is stupid for thinking mental illness is the qualifying factor for welfare.

We get it, you think liberals are stupid.

Talk about predictable.

[jediuser598]

Going to drop this in here, because hey, why not?

[Montegriffo]

Perhaps a property deed or lease agreement could be part of the paperwork one has to show officers during random police stops. If they don't have their papers, haul em off to jail or the looney bin.

Or, you know, when the cops are forced to respond to a bum who wreaks like cat piss getting into a violent altercation with his reflection in the train window, they can drop him off at the loony farm for evaluation by a psychiatrist.

... an evaluation you say? Like to determine if he’s mentally ill, disabled, or ...dare I say ... capable?

Jeez, you can’t swing a ratty backpack in this place without hitting on ways to determine whether or not someone is capable. And to think, just pages ago the entire liberal wing of the board was absolutely flummoxed as to how it could possibly be done.

Not flummoxed at all, just trying to determine who is going to make these decisions about who qualifies for state assistance. I was going to make a point about how you are OK with deciding who is allowed to get gibs but determining who should be disqualified from gun ownership due to mental illness is government over-reach because you don't trust the state. You refused to answer though so I was never able to make that point.

[DBTrek]

Those adjudicated of mental illness are already ineligible to own guns, and I’m fine with it, Monte. So your follow up point is as misguided as your first attempt.

I consistently vote not to open tent cities or allow needle exchanges in my town, so your point is also invalid, Jedi.

You’ve made your strawman and then knocked them down, but i’m Not sure who you impressed with it HM. You had no point.

Next.
Zzzzzzzzz

[Montegriffo]

Good to hear the mentally ill can't own guns, that should help reduce the number of mass shootings from now on. It's been weeks since the last one, maybe it's working already.

[Viktorthepirate]

Good to hear the mentally ill can't own guns, that should help reduce the number of mass shootings from now on. It's been weeks since the last one, maybe it's working already.

We are working on it. Eventually we will outlaw home delivery of cutlery as well like more advanced civilizations do.

I heard the murder rate is like 0 in places that enforce that.