The Right and the Left need each other - debate

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Re: The Right and the Left need each other - debate

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:55 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Smitty is killing it.
If "it" is democracy then I agree.
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Re: The Right and the Left need each other - debate

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:04 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Smitty is killing it.
If "it" is democracy then I agree.
In a Liberty nation, of which America is the only one, where all people make their own decisions, and all other members of society are simply allies, then no person's opinion is more valuable than anyone else's, the very essence of democracy.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:08 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Smitty is killing it.
If "it" is democracy then I agree.
Good lord. Placing individual liberty above mob rule is killing democracy?
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:11 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Smitty is killing it.
If "it" is democracy then I agree.
America is not a Democracy and never was, Demos is Imperio Populi, America is Res Publica, representative constitutional limited govenance is actually the antithesis of mob rule.

The purpose of American governance is not to assert the will of Demos by Imperio Populi, the purpose is to select representatives to ensure limited governance by defending and upholding the constituion.
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Post by Fife » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:52 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Smitty is killing it.
If "it" is democracy then I agree.
America is not a Democracy and never was, Demos is Imperio Populi, America is Res Publica, representative constitutional limited govenance is actually the antithesis of mob rule.

The purpose of American governance is not to assert the will of Demos by Imperio Populi, the purpose is to select representatives to ensure limited governance by defending and upholding the constituion.
So it was, until the swivel-chair losers like O.W. Holmes, Jr., came along and intellectualized the world away.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:11 pm

Fife wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
If "it" is democracy then I agree.
America is not a Democracy and never was, Demos is Imperio Populi, America is Res Publica, representative constitutional limited govenance is actually the antithesis of mob rule.

The purpose of American governance is not to assert the will of Demos by Imperio Populi, the purpose is to select representatives to ensure limited governance by defending and upholding the constituion.
So it was, until the swivel-chair losers like O.W. Holmes, Jr., came along and intellectualized the world away.

https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/is ... titution/#
Ah, well, now we're coming to the source of American anti-Intellectualism, or "It's all moonshine!" as Americans of said persuation like to say, now of course, I might be eccentric in this view, but as a classical monarchist, I beleive in Dieu and mon droit, and as such, that the Declaration of Independence supercedes even the contitution that follows, to wit, the Declaration of Independence doesn't flow from the Constitution, the Constitution flows from the Declaration of Independence.

That being said, whether collective sovereign or individual soveriegn, all sovereigns are ultimately bound to go to war to defend their perogatives, but you can't do that, if you've become a bunch of bourgeois panty waists who aren't prepared to kill and die for anything anymore, nor to hang the counterevolutionaries against your divinely providential individual sovereignty from the lampposts therein.

To wit, God and your right, sir, if you can keep it.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:15 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
mydogjesse wrote:You don't believe left = progressive and right = conservative?
Left towards the prerogatives of a collective, Right towards the prerogatives of sovereignty against a collective; since the birth of the Left and Right, in the French Revolution.

No God but man and his Commune v. God and my right to be King; American version, God and everyman's right to be a king.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:23 am

skankhunt42 wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Oh and before you point to other Western countries who have the Welfare without the Warfare, just realize that our Welfare states are also propped up by your Warfare. You're not actually defending us from threats, but you are propping us up by fabricating threats to maintain the Purpetual War.

Can we put that on a billboard in every major city in the United States? Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Bravo sir.
Oi, correct that spelling mistake if you do, "purpetual" was a typo, change to "perpetual."
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Post by Okeefenokee » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:33 am

Well, in print I fix my errors, but in wood work I leave it like I made it. I take those lessons to the next piece.
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Re: The Right and the Left need each other - debate

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:37 am

Okeefenokee wrote:Well, in print I fix my errors, but in wood work I leave it like I made it. I take those lessons to the next piece.
Note to self: Bring extra coasters to the next Okee cookout.