Best American General of All Time?

[heydaralon]

The mistake that people make about the Nazis, is asserting that their obsession was Jews and Communists.

That wasn't what they were obsessed with.

They were obsessed with art.

After the war, the modern artists rise and commence a critique of the war by art.

The Nazis were a backlash to this.

The Degenerate Art undermines faith in the Reich, and that is what brings the Reich down in the end.

The Nazis actually had a Degenerate Art Exhibition. They'd take art from "degenerates" and they'd fucking grafiti the walls it hung on and they'd hang the paintings crooked and shit. Apparently a lot of folks went to thse art shows, and some Brooklyn hipster fag probably stole the idea and did a similar show in Williamsburg today.

It seems like a lot of the Nazi Art was classical. Arno Brecker's sculptures, Albert Speer's architecture, maybe to a lesser extent Leni Riefenstahl's movie (which seemed more like a throwback to 19th century nationalism). Apparently, Speer designed a lot of his structures to decompose in such a way that they would leave aesthetically pleasing ruins. I guess he modeled them on the way the Colosseum looks today to visitors of Rome. He wanted the Reich's ruins to atrophy like that and look that way to some Aryan tourist in 1000 years.

[Smitty-48]

But what does Hollywood do?

Do they not do exactly what Hitler and Hoover asserted?

America Bashing Hollywood White Guilt Liberals making movies about America's Evil Empire?

[heydaralon]

But what does Hollywood do?

Do they not do exactly what Hitler and Hoover asserted?

America Bashing Hollywood White Guilt Liberals making movies about America's Evil Empire?

Oh they are sickening faggots, no doubt, but in a way we have let them win. I watch (and enjoy) some of Oliver Stone's and the Coen brothers' movies, David Chase and David Simon's shows, music from the Smiths, and the list goes on. It sucks, because I hate the politics of these dickwads, but I compromise and view their art, thus legitimizing it and supporting it. Every piece of art kind of opens pandora's box.

I am not big on suicide pacts, which is what the Third Reich was. I'm not drinking the Kool Aid on that shit, but in a thought experiment if I could make a Faustian Bargain to give up all this media I enjoy to live in a homogenous 1950's society where faggotry was not waved in my face and single mother whores couldn't use the family courts to turn you into a slave, or where you go to jail and lose your bank acct for not using the right transfreak pronoun I'd want to return to it in a heartbeat. Its a delicate tightrope to balance, because I am not for govt suppression of speech, I just wish our culture reviled leftism and all its nasty offspring. I'd give up tv, movies, and music if this was possible. But you can't return to the garden of eden I suppose.

[Smitty-48]

The Third Reich was doing fine, until they invaded the Russian Steppe.

If they had taken France, then gone over to the defensive, they could have won the war.

[Smitty-48]

Even if you need the oil, you don't bother with the northern route.

If you have to, you split Ukraine from the Russians, take the South Caucuses, then dig in a massive defense in depth and let the Soviets break themselves on the ramparts.

The Germans simply spread themselves too thin, trying to take everything in one fell swoop, which was not necessary.

[heydaralon]

The Third Reich was doing fine, until they invaded the Russian Steppe.

If they had taken France, then gone over to the defensive, they could have won the war.

I was under the impression that Russia invasion/colonization was baked into the cake of National Socialism. Hitler outlined this theory in Mein Kampf. And that I do consider a suicide pact.

You mentioned that a lot of this Social Justice faggotry comes from France. I almost wonder if America's future would be better if we just let the Nazi's have it. I am disgusted by both, but I find Hitler, even as a mass murderer, far less repellent than Stalin or Mao. The fact that Stalin got half of Europe after WW2 is tha big joke. The fact that we in the West view Communism as being somehow morally better than Nazism is an even bigger joke.

[Smitty-48]

They wanted to annihilate the Soviets, but they lacked patience.

All they needed in the near term, was Baku.

Just secure Baku.

Then dig in on both fronts.

Don't overreach, let them come to you.

[Smitty-48]

Kesselring was wasted on Italy.

Forget Italy, anybody can defend the Apennines.

Take Baku, concentrate all the forces on the southern route, then put Kesselring in charge of the defense.

[Smitty-48]

Hilter was a great politician, but a bad General, that was their downfall.

[heydaralon]

I don't think it would have made a difference in the long run. The Japanese would have done Pearl Harbor regardless. Hitler would have declared war against US once that happened regardless. Enter the US. We would have fought them both, AND given aid to Britain, De Gaulle France, and Russia which we did anyway. We would have sustained waay higher casualties, but in the end, I think the Germans would run out of money and the US manufacturing would have saved us. Japan was fucked from the get go, and Germany didn't have the resources to fight America. Italy had a learning disability, so they were basically dead weight. WW2 would have been far more grim for Americans, which are the only ones who ultimately matter, but Germany was still fucked like a hollywood starlet in Weinstein's office.