Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

[Penner]

Okay, so I am not going to spend reading 20+ pages of this but does Trump have any evidence other than a Breitbart article?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Okay, so I am not going to spend reading 20+ pages of this but does Trump have any evidence other than a Breitbart article?

Of course he has more evidence! His evidence is that Obama is a slimy sum'bitch, and soft on terrorists also, and everyone is always out to get him because they are jealous of how constantly winning all the time he always is.

[TheReal_ND]

Two FISA warrants were issued. Iirc one of them was actually denied which is odd. Out of the thousands issued only a bakers dozen have been denied. There's no question he was tapped and nobody denies that. The only question is wether or not the evidence gathered was destroyed when the investigation was over. If they had found something they would have prosecuted but they didn't.

Trump can now shield himself from further leaks at any rate. Any more leaks will be questioned on the grounds of wether or not they were gathered from the FISA warrant.

According to Circa’s Sara Carter, an investigation into a Trump server found no evidence of Russian collusion. She spoke to Sean Hannity Thursday on Fox News.

“So there were two warrants granted,” Hannity asked. “One was the FISA warrant, explain that and the other warrant, and explain that they found no evidence of any Russian collusion at all, and that’s what your report says?”

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/09 ... collusion/

Interestingly, all of those publications have been printing stories over the past several months that provide the very evidence they said Trump was lacking. Just over a month ago, on January 20th, the New York Times’ front-page story was titled, “Wiretapped Data Used In Inquiry of Trump Aides.” That story went on to reveal, “The FBI is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the CIA and the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.”

http://idahostatejournal.com/opinion/co ... 4bb34.html

Former director of national intelligence James Clapper over the weekend testified publicly that there was no FISA warrant on either Trump or his associates, but some reporting has suggested that the court did authorize the FBI to monitor the transactions of a pair of Russian banks.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... rveillance

Interestingly here, Clapper seems to be denying the existence of FISA warrants but the article goes on to list a few ways agencies could have used loop holes to gather evidence without one.

The original FISA request which specifically named and broadly targeted Donald Trump was denied, a second request was redrafted months later which narrowed down on equipment in Trump Tower. The second request is said to have been granted, despite the fact that FBI sources did not believe these servers to be of actual national security or possess any illegal ties to Russia. The notion that this second FISA warrant was granted is highly significant as they exist to investigate cases when Foreign Intelligence is suspected of operations in the US.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03 ... -evidence/

Here's an article briefly talking about the first FISA request that was denied.

Upon further reflection it seems like the media said there were FISA requests granted at one time, but now nobody seems sure. So idk anymore.

[C-Mag]

Okay, so I am not going to spend reading 20+ pages of this but does Trump have any evidence other than a Breitbart article?

Here's a brief Summary of what I know and my feelings on the matter

O'Reilly, I'm not a huge fan, was unusually concise on this issue.
There are 2 small facts we do know about this at this time.
1. Trump was spied on.
We know that, because the Flynn conversations that were listened on were held at Trump Tower
2. During the Transition BHO loosened the rules to share information between agencies.

Also, the knowledge of the spying could have come from the Secret Service doing counter surveillance checks. Personally, I'd like to see Trump start to De-Classify a whole bunch of spying docs that have happened in the last couple decades. My read on what happened here is that Trump got sick of hearing the Russia screed, he knew he was being spied on so he just walked into the room and tipped over the entire game board. Trump is a master of disruption to get opponents on their game.

Easy proof that the spying was happening are front page NYTimes articles from January 2016 that stated clearly that Trump was wiretapped. And the NYTimes was getting leaked info from the wire taps.

[Martin Hash]

Very nice synopsis & conclusion.

p.s. Fuckheads like McCain & McConnell are getting on my nerves.

[C-Mag]

Very nice synopsis & conclusion.

p.s. Fuckheads like McCain & McConnell are getting on my nerves.

Fucking Hate 'em!

This election is really revealing who's stands where.

I've been listening to Steve Bannon today, to try and figure out who this guy is. You might want to listen do him Doctor Hash, he's a Liberalist as far as I can tell. What I gathered is Trump and Bannon want to break the strong ties between Finance, Business and Government. It's quite a bite to take on.

[Penner]

Okay, so I am not going to spend reading 20+ pages of this but does Trump have any evidence other than a Breitbart article?

Of course he has more evidence! His evidence is that Obama is a slimy sum'bitch, and soft on terrorists also, and everyone is always out to get him because they are jealous of how constantly winning all the time he always is.

Yeah, this. There seems to be no evidence (that we know of) that would lead to the idea that Obama and/or his administration did something illegal. From what I have heard, apparently they did get a warrant for a Russian bank and some are wondering if this leads back to Trump?

[Martin Hash]

What?! Did you miss C-Mag's post? (It's just a couple above yours.)

[de officiis]

What?! Did you miss C-Mag's post? (It's just a couple above yours.)

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink...

[Penner]

Apparently, Trump is now backing away from his wiretapping claims with this:

(CNN)The White House on Monday walked back a key point of President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated allegation that President Barack Obama wiretapped his phones in Trump Tower during the 2016 election.

Namely, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Trump wasn't referring to wiretapping when he tweeted about wiretapping.
"I think there's no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election," Spicer said. "The President used the word wiretaps in quotes to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities."

and some more from the article:

Spicer also said that Trump was referring to the Obama administration broadly -- and not accusing Obama of personal involvement -- when he tweeted that "Obama had my 'wires tapped' in Trump Tower" and accused Obama of being a "bad" or "sick guy."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/ ... index.html

Overall, this all sounds like bullshit.