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Re: Current US Military

Post by C-Mag » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:11 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:53 am

yeah, this is why I just stick to Tucker Carlson
We are seeing the greatness of Tucker.
Before he did he started attacking these generals, starting with General 'White Rage', the Generals were still sacred cows. Tucker made it OK to question them, and Afghanistan blew the thing wide open.

In America, we are supposed to question our leaders.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:15 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:11 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:53 am

yeah, this is why I just stick to Tucker Carlson
We are seeing the greatness of Tucker.
Before he did he started attacking these generals, starting with General 'White Rage', the Generals were still sacred cows. Tucker made it OK to question them, and Afghanistan blew the thing wide open.

In America, we are supposed to question our leaders.
he's just my generation, classic Generation X

he just wants his America from 1985 back, same as me

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Re: Current US Military

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:41 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:49 am
The Generals are finally starting to be blamed for 2 decades of shit, and rightly so. Even right now not a single General 'White Rage' sighting, fucking coward went underground and sent out a subordinate to take the heat rounds from the press.

A good piece on all this.
Generation GWOT and the fall of Afghanistan
Did we lose? Yeah, goddamn right we lost. Let’s just get that out of the way now, like ripping off a band aid. Do not get out the “ We were winning when I left” hats and slap a Ghan flag on them. Face the facts, and then act. If the goal 20 years ago was to remove the Taliban, and now the Taliban is back 100% in control without even requiring a name change, then the objective was not met.

Is it your fault? No. The failure here, while stunning, rests on the political class and the Generals. So like I said, the political class. Who, exactly, do you think lost this war? You, out slogging the mountains, and mowing down Taliban fighters with a machine gun, and surviving on fish sticks and MRE crackers at the firebase, and winning EVERY tactical level engagement for 20 years? Or the spineless General who didn’t hear a gun shot despite 9 tours, who was the architect of the grand strategy, and spent his time quite literally getting his dick sucked by his biographer in his office at Bagram instead of trying to win?
https://off-the-reservation.com/2021/08 ... ghanistan/
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:10 pm

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Hastur » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:49 am

Excellent piece by Matt Taibbi, focusing mostly on the waste and corruption.

We Failed Afghanistan, Not the Other Way Around
All told, “SIGAR reviewed approximately $63 billion and concluded that a total of approximately $19 billion or 30 percent of the amount reviewed was lost to waste, fraud, and abuse.”

Thirty percent! If the overall cost of the war was, as reported, $2 trillion (about $300 million per day for 20 years), a crude back of the envelope calculation for the amount lost to fraud during the entire period might be $600 billion, an awesome sum. It could even be worse than that. SIGAR for instance also looked at a $7.8 billion sum spent on buildings and vehicles from 2008 on, and reported that of that, only $343.2 million worth “were maintained in good condition.” They added that just $1.2 billion of the original expenditure was used as intended. By that metric, the majority of the monies spent in Afghanistan might simply have gone up in smoke in bogus or ineffectual contracting schemes.

Worse, many enormous expenses that wouldn’t have been described by inspectors as outright fraud or waste were dubious anyway. As detailed earlier in this space in an interview with former Captain Adrian Bonenberger, the military spent an astonishing $50 billion just on one failed program, the Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected vehicle, or MRAP. They spent nearly a million dollars per vehicle and scrapped 2,000 of them just six years after introducing them into the field in Afghanistan. How many stories like this were there?
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Re: Current US Military

Post by C-Mag » Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:46 am

Hastur wrote:
Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:49 am
Excellent piece by Matt Taibbi, focusing mostly on the waste and corruption.

We Failed Afghanistan, Not the Other Way Around
We funded US Troops, contractors and the Afghan Army on one side, but we also fund the Pakistan Military and Intel, which funds the Taliban.

Monopoly on both sides of the market................. pretty successful :twisted:
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Re: Current US Military

Post by DBTrek » Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:51 am

Wait ... the USA's foreign entanglements are just a cover for the political class and their corporate cronies to make vast sums of taxpayer wealth disappear into their own pockets?

<gasp>

Say it ain't so.

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Re: Current US Military

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:03 pm

Heh you guys will enjoy this.

https://ifunny.co/video/VVDUcIIr8?s=cl

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Re: Current US Military

Post by The Conservative » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:38 am

My friend in the military is over there right now. He is one of the 7k...

He's pissed off. He's been in the military for almost 15 years now. He can't say much except that the mainstream media is lying worse than a rug.

He said there will be pits of dead found if they go back in again.

Women are being raped, children who went to school thrown into slavery and the men that helped the US and their families exterminated.

He doesn't know after seeing some of this and unable to stop it if he is going to re-up again.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:29 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:38 am
My friend in the military is over there right now. He is one of the 7k...

He's pissed off. He's been in the military for almost 15 years now. He can't say much except that the mainstream media is lying worse than a rug.

He said there will be pits of dead found if they go back in again.

Women are being raped, children who went to school thrown into slavery and the men that helped the US and their families exterminated.

He doesn't know after seeing some of this and unable to stop it if he is going to re-up again.
That's what happens to the losing side in almost any war.

Sucks, but it's the human condition.
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