North Korea News

[Speaker to Animals]

Kinetic rods are hardly wunderwaffe. They are based on the most primitive weapon: throwing rocks.

[Smitty-48]

Either way, can't hit what you can't find, whether with hyper velocity kinetics, B83's, or plain old GBU's.

That's why this is a ticking time bomb, because Washington has punted this so many times, it may in fact be beyond the point of no return already.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Well, there’s your signal, Smits. Looks like it’s getting real.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-0 ... -south-kor

Faggot senator urging evacuation of Americans from Sork.

[Smitty-48]

Well, there’s your signal, Smits. Looks like it’s getting real.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-0 ... -south-kor

Faggot senator urging evacuation of Americans from Sork.

Meh, the Americans are not going to strike, the North Koreans have the initiative here, and they're not ready to kick this off yet, they're not going to start escalating, until they have a critical mass of weapons which could overwhelm your GMD.

There's no need for them to rush this, they've got all the time in the world, because no one is going to stop them.

[Smitty-48]

As of right now, we're in the demonstration phase, they are showing you that they have the bombs, they have the delivery system, and that it is viable and capable and mature, once that's done, then they'll begin assembly line production towards a critical mass, but they're not going to try to leverage you, until they have enough of them to make a counterforce a non starter for all intents and purposes, and too many of them to shoot down with BMD, and all of that is dispersed and concealed, on hair trigger alert.

They are clearly not at all concerned that you are going to preempt them, and with good reason, because you're not, if you were, you would have done it a long time ago,

[TheReal_ND]

We have to protect the anime. I'm going to be very pissed if Japan is forced to make concessions to those dumb fuck garlic eaters.

[Smitty-48]

Contrary to the hysterical liberal narrative that Trump is gearing up for war; he's punting, as the last five Presidents did, thus is why this is vectoring towards the brink, because as it goes, the window for preemption gets tighter and tighter, and it's already such a long shot, that punting is irresistible, and it will keep getting punted, all the way to a Korean Missile Crisis, but that's going to be the next Presidents problem, or maybe the one after that, each President punts this down the line, as it gets more and more precarious along the way, the more precarious it gets, the more they punt, the more they punt, the more precarious it gets.

At this point, you might as well just start planning for the Korean Missile Crisis, as it's pretty much too late for preemption already, military viable, perhaps, but politically, the window has already closed. Punting is baked into the cake now, so time to start preparing for the kick return coming back down the field at you, at some point in the not too distant future.

This is already Kobayashi fuckin' Maru; damned if you do, damned if you don't, passed the point of quick and dirty take down, quite a ways back, sometime in Obama's first term or so.

That's the thing, while the US was bogged down in the ME, is when the NK's kicked this into overdrive, knowing full well, that America was too busy with other things to take any action against them, they've got this all planned out, and it's all going according to their plan, down to a tee.

They don't make any bones about it, they openly state what their plan is, but nobody in the media ever bothers to report what they are saying, the liberal media reports their preferred "regime change deterrence" narrative as part of blaming George W. Bush for everything, while totally ignoring what the NK's are actually saying and doing, actual information as to what's going on here, taking a backseat to Democrat party propaganda for domestic partisan consumption.

This is why people are underestimating the danger here, they've been told by the Democrats, er I mean "journalists", that this is just "deterrence", cause "George W. Bush", so "nothing to worry about", when in fact, that's not what the NK's are on about, if they were being told what the NK's were actually on about, preemption would have happened a long time ago, because this threat here, makes a 767 flying into the World Trade Center, look like a bee sting, and these fuckers in Pyongyang, are actually far crazier than Al Qaeda, make no mistake.

Sure, a tiny fraction of AQ is willing to suicide themselves, but the vast majority are not, whereas this kooky doomsday cult in Pyongyang, is launching twenty million people into a suicide mission, and the cult members are so indoctrinated, they're like fuckin' automatons, nobody would question it even if they were allowed to, and the leadership is so drunk on their own kool-aid, they believe their own press releases about being able to pull this off.

The biggest mistake people make in the outside world, is thinking that the kookery in North Korea is just an act, but it's not, yes, they are being forced to do it, but that is by indoctrination, and they've indoctrinated multiple generations now, from birth, on nothing but juche kool-aid, in a bubble completely sealed off from the rest of the world, so make no mistake, they are true believers, because that's all they know and it's all they've ever known, for decades, so from their point of view, they are rational, but in our reality, they are totally fuckin' bonkers.

The DPRK makes Orwell's 1984 look like a libertarian paradise, and that, is fuckin' cray-cray in of itself, insanity is the only way this country functions, without insanity, it could not exist, they've gone so far down the unfiltered totalitarian rabbit hole, that the whole enterprise is loony tunes by default.

They believe that they are more powerful than the United States, they think that this is a mismatch alright, but to them, the Americans are the weaklings and the Juche Master Race shall prevail, which, no, but, buckle up, because anything that deluded on such a grand scale, with hydrogen bombs, is a crazy train about to run everybody into a conflagration for the ages.

And no, China is not going to save us, not only are the Chinese not in control of this, they have almost no influence over it at all, and they are punting just as much as we are, because they haven't got a clue what to do about it neither, and they are even more spooked by it than we are. You think the North Koreans are intimidated by the Chinese? Quite the opposite, the Chinese are scared shitless of them, because the Chinese are fully aware of how cray-cray they actually are. What, attempt to collapse this regime by force, and find out where the nuclear chips fly after? The Chinese are no more willing to risk that than you are. Embargo them to the brink? Embargo is war, and what happens when this regime gets to the brink? You don't want to find out? Yeah, neither does China.

Anytime anybody says "we're not going to war, we're going to embargo them instead", you know they're just talking shit, because embargo is war, if you're not going to war, you're not going to follow through on the threat to embargo, because it's the same thing folks, an embargo is force, an act of war, both de jure, and de facto. If you embargo, you must be prepared to back that up with bombs if there is retaliation, if you're not willing to bomb, you're not willing to embargo, so "embargo" in this context = "we're punting", as in, they ain't doing shit.

Trump is talking a bunch of shit, like he's gonna do something, because he's painted himself into that corner, but they are telling him; all the options are bad, very very bad, potentially catastrophically bad, the only non catastrophically bad option, for you, right now, is punting, and that's what he's gonna do, and same with China.

Lindsay Graham is full of shit too, there's no preparations for war, there's one carrier in the Sea of Japan, one in the Persian Gulf, the rest are in port, the US military is not ramping up for war, nothing of the sort. Chameleon is right, this will become a crisis at some point, which cannot be punted, but we're not there yet.

[KerningChameleon]

The North Korean situation is bad because no matter what, someone gets sacrificed in the deal. In the past and currently present, that someone was the 20-someodd million ordinary North Koreans, since the West, China, Japan, and the ROK weren't willing to give up the cushy status quo for them. In the future, I think we'll just add the ROK and Japanese to the "such a pity, donate a dollar to send them a fruit basket" ledger, in a desperate bid to keep the Gravy Peace Train rollin'.

You know, I think Trump might have just Mr. Magoo'd his way into being ahead of the curve on this one. I think when The Crisis hits, we'll blink and abandon the ROK and Japan to the Kims' and China's tender mercies. And when we do, no one will think twice, because hey, those damn cowardly Americans started abandoning their allies way back with that maniac Trump, par for the course. "We learned to do without them, we'll do it again," they'll say, as China finally achieves their dream of being the local empire in the region once more after paying off the Kims' by turning a blind eye to their psyop infiltration of ROK.

[Smitty-48]

You know, I think Trump might have just Mr. Magoo'd his way into being ahead of the curve on this one. I think when The Crisis hits, we'll blink and abandon the ROK and Japan to the Kims' and China's tender mercies.

Perhaps, but the danger zone is in the transition, the scenario you are invoking couldn't really happen overnight, that's a generational shift not a deke move, if set upon suddenly and backed up against the wall by nuclear blackmail, the national security apparatus will react reflexively, nobody puts baby in a corner, with hydrogen bombs, without that shit getting real fucking hairy real fucking fast, anyway you slice it.

The United States would not be in control anymore than the NK's would, as soon as somebody puts a nuclear gun up in America's mouth, to try to leverage her, the fur is gonna fly, because when you scare the existential shit out of America, she's not going to react in a calm and rational manner, she's gonna go ape shit, that's going to set the nuclear deterrent off, worldwide, that's gonna be the brink of nuclear war, autonomous response, at which point, control becomes a delusion.

You had it right the first time, it's all about brinksmanship, but once somebody takes it to the brink, the genie is out of the bottle, and neither side is in control, it will take on a life of its own, hair trigger, and if anybody flinches then; yikes. These trains are made to run on time, and they go on the drop of a hat, while reining them in with the chicken switch, requires all your might.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Planning an “exercise” with 3 aircraft carriers. That’s an absurd amount of assets to plant right up Kimmies nose.

This is a bluff-call that’s going to end terribly.