Unite the Right

[katarn]

No right-wingers, nazis, or white supremacists at the Charlottesville City Council meeting and things still erupted in violence and chaos.
BUT DON'T YOU DARE SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE INTOLERANCE PROBLEM!!!!


What can one do at this point, but laugh?
Or cry.
Or stop reading the news.

The unwashed masses have caught on to the game, I think the only people who still believe this stuff are on my facebook feed

And there are tens of millions of them all around the world, which makes it scary if you think about it.

Something to think about, because in most conflicts many members don't really want to fight, they are pressured into it, is what will you do if we get a brown shirt red shirt paradigm in the US? Do you join with one or sit in the middle and get punished by both sides for it? Do the people in the middle make a third united side to avoid punishment?

[Okeefenokee]

Join the Cossacks and put down both sides.

[The Conservative]

The unwashed masses have caught on to the game, I think the only people who still believe this stuff are on my facebook feed

And there are tens of millions of them all around the world, which makes it scary if you think about it.

Something to think about, because in most conflicts many members don't really want to fight, they are pressured into it, is what will you do if we get a brown shirt red shirt paradigm in the US? Do you join with one or sit in the middle and get punished by both sides for it? Do the people in the middle make a third united side to avoid punishment?

My response is simple, leave me and my family alone. We are neutral ground, provoke me though and it is the last thing you do. I live by a simple motto, live and let live. If you and yours can't honor that, then we've come to an impasse, one I happen to have no willingness to loose.

I live on an acre of land, I know how to farm, how to build, I know how to get electricity off-grid, and I know how to defend my family. The majority of America can't say that...

[DBTrek]

Something to think about, because in most conflicts many members don't really want to fight, they are pressured into it, is what will you do if we get a brown shirt red shirt paradigm in the US? Do you join with one or sit in the middle and get punished by both sides for it? Do the people in the middle make a third united side to avoid punishment?

A better question might be . . . do we even get a choice? One side is white supremacy - the other is destroy everything traditional and white.
I'm a white dude. Do I get to pick, of have the sides already divided the populace up amongst themselves, and no matter what I personally decide, I'll always be seen as "obviously" belonging to the white supremacy side because I clearly don't belong to the kill whitey side?

It's like a bad soap opera about a prison yard, some days.

• "Oh, you're white? Skin heads stay on that side of the yard"
  
  "But I'm not a skinhead"
  
  "Well you better think that over, cuz this is the black part of the yard and that's the Hispanic part, and if your cracker ass is wandering over here solo with nobody to back you up then you got real problems."
  

Obviously I choose not to belong to either side . . . but neither side cares about that. They've already decided where I belong, according to their worldview.
The only real choice is not to surrender the narrative to extremists.

[Okeefenokee]

I think some people are forgetting that there is also a group of people who have been confronting Antifa and other leftist mobs for several months now, and they aren't nazis.

Did fakenews do that good of a job on everyone?



Notice the black dude with the MAGA hat and the baseball bat in the middle of the brawl against Antifa. The point of calling everyone a nazi is to make you think you don't have a side, because you're not a nazi. I would caution people to resist this jedi mind trick, as it appears some people are falling for it.

[Speaker to Animals]

About a year ago I outlined this problem in the previous forum.

There were some progressives lauding the Spanish republic and attacking those evil Catholics for supporting the fascist regime that eventually took over and tried to exterminate all the Marxists.

Here's the thing: if I am a Spanish Catholic, and you guys are trying to exterminate me, then why wouldn't I support the fascists coming to power and exterminating you instead? Should I instead just accept my own death at your hands?

Ben Shapiro made the point that Antifa is doing exactly what the red shirts did in Wiemar Germany, which actually made it possible for the national socialists to gain even more support. People took the side of the national socialists to restore law and order.

It seems to me that actual fascism, as opposed to everybody these cultural Marxists don't like, came to power as a response to Marxism. Fascism is what happens when Marxism becomes such a toxic force in society, as we are beginning to see again today, that the right really does unite against them, but does so by adopting many of the same political strategies. Among these strategies include identity politics, collective interests (corporatism), etc.

My suggestion to the batshit loons on the left: if you really want to keep fascism from coming to America, then cut out this cultural Marxist crap right away.

Because it's clear where they would take us, and I will start throwing them out of helicopters before they start hurting the people I care about. You better believe that. The media needs to stop pretending like these alt-left faggots are protagonists.

[Okeefenokee]

I still believe that the largest factor in what happened in Germany and other places where national collectivism rose up to confront international collectivism was the economy.

If my memory serves me, the National Socialists never won a single national election in all the years they existed before the depression hit. The fascists and the communists were battling it out in the streets like what we see now, but the majority of the people were focused on rebuilding in the interwar years. The task at hand was the recovery, which was being made possible by loans from America, and the rabble rousers got little attention from the general public, as nothing they were doing could be seen as part of the rebuilding effort.

Then the depression hits in America. The loans to Germany are cut off. Germany drops into a worse depression. People are starving. Money is worthless. People hear stories of children being snatched up to be eaten, and keep their own children locked inside their homes.

Then Hitler comes to power. Not because that's when he showed up. He had been around for years, but no one listened to him, or voted for the National Socialists, while there was hope they could rebuild through good ol' fashioned hard work.

I think that's the group in the middle people are wondering about. The people who see these radicals making noise on both sides, but DON'T grab a bat to go out and join them. The group in the middle is the people who act like civilized people, and go to work each day. As long as the majority of us are in that group, we're fine.

We might need to go to a six day work week, because two days off each week to fly to a riot, and be back at work on Monday, might be just enough rope to hang ourselves.

[apeman]

It's like a bad soap opera about a prison yard, some days.

• "Oh, you're white? Skin heads stay on that side of the yard"
  
  "But I'm not a skinhead"
  
  "Well you better think that over, cuz this is the black part of the yard and that's the Hispanic part, and if your cracker ass is wandering over here solo with nobody to back you up then you got real problems."
  

Obviously I choose not to belong to either side . . . but neither side cares about that. They've already decided where I belong, according to their worldview.
The only real choice is not to surrender the narrative to extremists.

Excellent post DB

[Viktorthepirate]

I still believe that the largest factor in what happened in Germany and other places where national collectivism rose up to confront international collectivism was the economy.

If my memory serves me, the National Socialists never won a single national election in all the years they existed before the depression hit. The fascists and the communists were battling it out in the streets like what we see now, but the majority of the people were focused on rebuilding in the interwar years. The task at hand was the recovery, which was being made possible by loans from America, and the rabble rousers got little attention from the general public, as nothing they were doing could be seen as part of the rebuilding effort.

Then the depression hits in America. The loans to Germany are cut off. Germany drops into a worse depression. People are starving. Money is worthless. People hear stories of children being snatched up to be eaten, and keep their own children locked inside their homes.

Then Hitler comes to power. Not because that's when he showed up. He had been around for years, but no one listened to him, or voted for the National Socialists, while there was hope they could rebuild through good ol' fashioned hard work.

I think that's the group in the middle people are wondering about. The people who see these radicals making noise on both sides, but DON'T grab a bat to go out and join them. The group in the middle is the people who act like civilized people, and go to work each day. As long as the majority of us are in that group, we're fine.

We might need to go to a six day work week, because two days off each week to fly to a riot, and be back at work on Monday, might be just enough rope to hang ourselves.

Except for 6 day work week, fuck you.

[Zlaxer]

If my memory serves me, the National Socialists never won a single national election in all the years they existed before the depression hit.

How fucking old are you?