SCIENCE

[DrYouth]

I had no idea you had an inner eco-terrorist...



I thought it was just a plain ol' terrorist...

[DBTrek]

I had no idea you had an inner eco-terrorist...



I thought it was just a plain ol' terrorist...

I keep him suppressed.

I see a plastic bag floating in a body of water and I want to hunt the person down and garrote them with their own soggy refuse.

But acting on that impulse is counterproductive to my long term plan of staying out of prison. I don’t know if you’ve heard, but we improson a few folks down this way - even for reasonable crimes of passion like strangling litterbugs.

[DrYouth]

Funny thing about science is that it has been for the most part a reductionist enterprise...

When the big thinkers posit synthesizing ideas.... like Darwin, Einstein and Humbolt... people tend to lose their shit...

Synthesising ideas are more than the sum of the underlying parts... and this tends to frustrate our cause and effect loving mind...

Leading many to argue that the theories are never proven.... which of course they never can be.

[Speaker to Animals]

Sure... but "for our own sake" dies at the extremes of individualism...

At the extremes of individualism "for our own sake" means gratuitous comsumption... cuz who gives a #*&%... and it feels good + sells shit.

There needs to be some greater sense of the self to make "for our own sake" connect with caretaking of any kind.

This is the primary crisis of the times.

Exactly correct.

I think the extreme individualist and the extreme collectivist are both wrong. It's both things. These are not mutually exclusive concepts, and without synthesis, they both lead to major problems.

How dialectic.

And to think, somewheres on this board, folks were being shitty about Hegel.

And Marx...

More about Christianity. The individual is only defined in its relation to others. But disrespecting the rights and life of the individual for the collective is just as dangerous and, ultimately, inhuman.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Exactly correct.

I think the extreme individualist and the extreme collectivist are both wrong. It's both things. These are not mutually exclusive concepts, and without synthesis, they both lead to major problems.

How dialectic.

And to think, somewheres on this board, folks were being shitty about Hegel.

And Marx...

More about Christianity. The individual is only defined in its relation to others. But disrespecting the rights and life of the individual for the collective is just as dangerous and, ultimately, inhuman.

Six of one.

What is the parable of the loaves and fishes if not a prefiguration of Lysenkoism?

Commie.

[Speaker to Animals]

How dialectic.

And to think, somewheres on this board, folks were being shitty about Hegel.

And Marx...

More about Christianity. The individual is only defined in its relation to others. But disrespecting the rights and life of the individual for the collective is just as dangerous and, ultimately, inhuman.

Six of one.

What is the parable of the loaves and fishes if not a prefiguration of Lysenkoism?

Commie.

Except s Marxist is anti-individual. Communism is not a synthesis of the collective and the individual at all. It's 100% collective and 0% individual.

[DrYouth]

Six of one.

What is the parable of the loaves and fishes if not a prefiguration of Lysenkoism?

Commie.

Lysenkoism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Proponents falsely claimed to have discovered, among many other things, that rye could transform into wheat and wheat into barley, that weeds could spontaneously transmute into food grains, and that "natural cooperation" was observed in nature as opposed to "natural selection".[2] Lysenkoism promised extraordinary advances in breeding and in agriculture that never came about.

Joseph Stalin supported the campaign. More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were fired or even sent to prison,[3] and numerous scientists were executed as part of a campaign instigated by Lysenko to suppress his scientific opponents.[4][5][6][7] The president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, was sent to prison and died there, while scientific research in the field of genetics was effectively destroyed until the death of Stalin in 1953.[2] Research and teaching in the fields of neurophysiology, cell biology, and many other biological disciplines was also negatively affected or banned.

Thanks for that!

Truly awesome little pearl.

Interesting how this Gaian archetype of collectivism is so averse to competition.

Competition is in the domain of Mars (warrior archetype) and Mercury (communication of ideas / markets)...

Fascinating... and has me thinking of ideas for the D&D thread....

[Fife]

More about Christianity. The individual is only defined in its relation to others. But disrespecting the rights and life of the individual for the collective is just as dangerous and, ultimately, inhuman.

Six of one.

What is the parable of the loaves and fishes if not a prefiguration of Lysenkoism?

Commie.

Except s Marxist is anti-individual. Communism is not a synthesis of the collective and the individual at all. It's 100% collective and 0% individual.

Do you remember that novel I suggested last year? Loaves and fishes was the central point.

[doc_loliday]

Pretty sure Marx would have marveled at the efficiencies of the markets at play while commenting on how the Chinese people were made richer while at the same time praising the loss of their superstitions.