Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

[Speaker to Animals]

Millions of distracted drivers will be replaced by millions of always alert self-driving cars.

Accidents will plummet. Deaths will plummet. Ambulance chasers will suffer.

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bullshit!

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[Okeefenokee]

Millions of distracted drivers will be replaced by millions of always alert self-driving cars.

Accidents will plummet. Deaths will plummet. Ambulance chasers will suffer.

*cough*

bullshit!

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They are the safest cars on the road right now. Delude yourself if you want.

[Speaker to Animals]

Millions of distracted drivers will be replaced by millions of always alert self-driving cars.

Accidents will plummet. Deaths will plummet. Ambulance chasers will suffer.

*cough*

bullshit!

*cough*

They are the safest cars on the road right now. Delude yourself if you want.

Massive bullshit alert.

[Okeefenokee]

Sure dude,

Since 2014, there have only been 34 reported accidents involving self-driving cars on California roads, according to state incident reports — and most happened when a human-driven car rear-ended or bumped into a self-driving car stopped at a red light or stop sign, or driving at low speed.
https://www.axios.com/humans-cause-most ... 2c0b9.html

[Okeefenokee]

California state law requires that all crashes involving self-driving vehicles be reported, regardless of severity.

Most of the crashes involved drivers of other vehicles striking the GM cars that were slowing for stop signs, pedestrian or other issues. In one crash, a driver of a Ford Ranger was on his cell phone when he rear-ended a Chevrolet Bolt that was stopped at a red light.

In another instance, the driver of a Chevrolet Bolt noticed an intoxicated cyclist in San Francisco going the wrong direction toward the Bolt. The human driver stopped the Bolt and the cyclist hit the bumper and fell over. The bicyclist pulled on a sensor attached to the vehicle causing minor damage.

In another incident on Sept. 15 in San Francisco, a Dodge Charger in the left-turn lane attempted to illegally pass a Bolt in driverless mode. The GM Cruise employee took control of the vehicle and the Dodge scraped the front sensor and fled the scene without stopping.

“All our incidents this year were caused by the other vehicle,” said a Rebecca Mark, spokeswoman for GM Cruise.

https://www.reuters.com/article/autos-s ... SL2N1MF1RO

[Okeefenokee]

THE NUMBERS DON’T LIE: SELF-DRIVING CARS ARE GETTING GOOD

IT'S REPORT CARD time for the automakers and Silicon Valley denizens studying the tricky problem of making cars drive themselves, and everyone is passing.

The California DMV just released its annual slate of "disengagement reports," documents provided by the 11 companies that received state permits to test autonomous vehicles by the end of 2015.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/californi ... ngagement/

[Fife]

Millions of distracted drivers will be replaced by millions of always alert self-driving cars.

Accidents will plummet. Deaths will plummet. Ambulance chasers will suffer.

*cough*

bullshit!

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You, of all of us, should know that horse-and-buggy argument is a loser, big time.

[Speaker to Animals]

I am pretty much the only one here with a background in AI. I would not trust these cars for the foreseeable future. Seriously.

These techniques are not magic. Nor are they as sophisticated as you might think.

When you over-engineer them, fine. But that's not profitable. This is why the reliable systems only get developed for things like rockets, which are really high expense and the risk involved very high.

As far as playing games with stats.. please. It's the same horseshit people play when they try to argue that planes are safer than cars (they are not).

Someday, this technology will be robust and worked out. Putting these vehicles on the road now is fucking insane, however.

I hate to get all Dr. Malcom on your dreams and shit, but yeah, this is a giant mountain of bullshit. BAD IDEA.

[de officiis]

Like many self-driving cars, Uber equips its vehicles with lidar sensors -- an acronym for light detection and ranging systems -- to help the car detect the world around it. One of the positive attributes of lidar is that it is supposed to work well at night when it is dark, detecting objects from hundreds of feet away.

Didn't really work here . . . guess they will try to figure out why. Reconstruct the amount of time it took for the woman to leave the berm and move to the point where she was struck, then use that time to calculate how far away the car was from her when traveling at 40 mph, and what it should've detected as she entered the traveled portion of the road. It could be that there was a curve in the road that influenced the machine's ability to detect her, but that's hard to tell from what little the news stories have provided. I suppose even a super-sensitive car will not prevent injury or death in the classic "dart out" case, but I'm not sure that is the situation here.

The interior video shows the problem if having human beings as back-up for these cars. We get bored and we just aren't very good at sitting there doing nothing until the split second that we are needed. People need to be engaged to be attentive.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a really bad idea until the point that development of the car-equivalent of avionics is developed, tested, and regulated in the same way as avionics.

The cost to develop something like this properly is actually really high, and I highly doubt Uber is going to fucking pay those costs. Cost per line of code for something like that upwards of ten grand. Not even kidding here.