European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

[Montegriffo]

Police say they have released 2 men and 1 women after questioning over racist chants. No mention of whether charges are to follow.

[DBTrek]

Police say they have released 2 men and 1 women after questioning over racist chants. No mention of whether charges are to follow.

Trying to envision how that went:

Cops: Were you chavs chanting this racist shite?

Chavs: No! Never!

Cops: Hmmmph. Carry on then, pip-pip, Cheerio.

[Okeefenokee]

Along similar lines.
Two men arested after racist chants recorded at Nottingham University.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-43328566

Arrested?

They don't have freedom of speech.

[Montegriffo]

Along similar lines.
Two men arested after racist chants recorded at Nottingham University.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-43328566

Arrested?

They don't have freedom of speech.

No freedom to intimidate.

[BjornP]

When did grown men (and women) get so damn fragile that every time they hear something they don’t like they have to record it and blast it on social media? What’s with all the attention seeking, and trying to document every minor bump you encounter so “the world can take action”?

Just doesn’t seem healthy.

Probably started when people started seeing other peoples freedom as threats to their feelings of security, be that economic security, emotional security or even just threats to one's sense of pride. When every argument, every conflict of ideas, in a society is treated as warfare, as one winning over the other, there will also be those who go the extra distance to achieve that win. Cheating, but yannow? For the greater good and all that.

Couple that with the sheer stupidity brought on by people who, when seeing certain words or phrases, immediatly go into "guilt by association" mode, but because they are too uneducated and unknowledgeable about the world their mental "associations" lead to them hearing, say, some guy demanding people go back to where they came from, as "racism". It's a question of deciphering people's - usually unspoken, yet implied - assumptions about the world. The act of putting a "shaming video" for "immoral behavior" is, in itself, not a wrong. No one here would bat an eyelash at someone making YT vid about "stolen valor" and shaming those perpetrators, I think.

The shaming act itself isn't wrong, then... the inability to properly assess what another person is actually saying - versus what oneself assumes they must be saying - is what's wrong with those videos. The fragility you speak of is brought on by the inability to understand each other, by seeing more and more ...well, diversity - real diversity, not the SJW shallow and superficial understanding of that word, as potential threats to your own sense of security, safety and personal freedom. I sometimes think there's even a thought that trying to understand the perspective of other people, gets treated as some sort of ideological treason - another guilt by association thinking. And get enough people to retweet or like and thus validate your incorrect mental associations that lead to labelling someone who's not talking racism, a racist, the more it will seem true to more people.

Tl;dr: People become more frail as they become more afraid of other people threatening their own sense of personal, economic and emotional security, which is brought on by an inability to properly assess threats. Shaming videos act like any other act of shaming, but because people are getting scared of other people because they misunderstand what a word or a certain idea means, they fail to make the proper mental associations. Instead they associate the ideas with something dangerous. The more who make those improper associations, the more it will seem to them they're not making any mistake.

[de officiis]

Well, from an empathic POV I doubt any of us would want our kids, even college aged ones, hiding behind a dorm door as loud voices are yelling about how they hate them due to their race. So I bet everyone, if they’re being honest, would agree that they wouldn’t want their kid going through what the black girl was going through.

On the other hand, a party of three adults having an argument where no one is being intimidated is a different animal.

I guess my main gripe is with fragile adults. When did grown men (and women) get so damn fragile that every time they hear something they don’t like they have to record it and blast it on social media? What’s with all the attention seeking, and trying to document every minor bump you encounter so “the world can take action”?

Just doesn’t seem healthy.

“Healthy” is not a word readily associated with any aspect of American culture right now.

[Speaker to Animals]

Amputate the malignant section of society. Cauterize the wound with a giant wall. That's how you fix this.

Letting California, Oregon, and Washington spin off into a Pacifica or something like that would do it. As it happens, you sell it up as the next progressive utopia. This draws in the ass hippies and marxists from all over. Once the deal is done, though, they don't get to come back (and vice versa). We will see down the line who's worldview is tenable and who's is not (maybe both, for all I know, and we just can't coexist).

[DBTrek]

Hmmmmmm. You know, Idaho ain’t looking that bad. I could probably pull back to Boise and still make decent money for the cost of living there.

Plus I’d be close enough to graffiti some of my opinions on the great West Coast wall. Might even be able to heave an aid package to ol’ Dan Carlin over the thing if Monte built a trebuchet for me.

[Fife]

Hmmmmmm. You know, Idaho ain’t looking that bad. I could probably pull back to Boise and still make decent money for the cost of living there.

Plus I’d be close enough to graffiti some of my opinions on the great West Coast wall. Might even be able to heave an aid package to ol’ Dan Carlin over the thing if Monte built a trebuchet for me.

Have you been to Coeur d'Alene?

[Speaker to Animals]

Hmmmmmm. You know, Idaho ain’t looking that bad. I could probably pull back to Boise and still make decent money for the cost of living there.

Plus I’d be close enough to graffiti some of my opinions on the great West Coast wall. Might even be able to heave an aid package to ol’ Dan Carlin over the thing if Monte built a trebuchet for me.

Boise was really nice in the 90s.

A lot of my old squadron mates are getting divorced and heading back there.