Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

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Re: Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:49 pm

Wait what? The shutdown is over? I'm going to miss those dstormer articles

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Re: Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

Post by doc_loliday » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:08 pm

Crowder and his punchable face annoys me and his articles look like something on buzzfeed. I don't really care if the democrats wave or don't wave American flags anyway.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:42 pm

The Democrats dodged the bullet, the shutdown was going to backfire on them, why would the GOP let them off the mat when they had them trapped?

Why would the GOP allow a tax which was a major impediment to Obamacare, be the thing they supposedly "extracted" from the Democrats "in return for" letting the Democrats off the hook, when the Democrats wanted to get rid of that tax?

You're getting baited and switched here, fellas, the GOP in congress is playing footsie with the Democrats in congress, to wriggle out of the Trump agenda.

The Democrats are off the hook with DACA, they got political cover on that now, nobody funded the wall, so there was no trade on that, and they just propped up Obamacare. Qui bono? Everybody except Trump.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:00 pm

Both parties are gonna be fine when no DACA bill gets passed.
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Re: Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 pm

Well exactly, the whole DACA thing was Trump's play, DACA for Wall Funding, the Democrats called his bluff, but in doing so they boxed themselves into this shutdown, but then... the GOP in congress comes to their rescue, and gives them something they needed to prop Obamacare up too?

So, now they all have cover on DACA, if Trump gets rid of it, that's his fault, his problem, and I don't think it's gonna be that popular with swing voters, Trump himself has said that the Dreamers are not high on anybodies hit list, and that's true.

Meanwhile, he didn't get funding for the wall, the whole DACA for Wall deal fell through, the Democrats wriggled off the hook on that, the GOP wriggled off the hook on that, and they got rid of the medical device tax which was a big burden to keeping Obamacare?

Classic congress working together to bounce everything back onto the White House, while ducking all the heat and giving their donors what they wanted too, since those medical device companies, which are mostly in Blue States, were lobbying hard to get rid of that tax all along.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:14 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Well exactly, the whole DACA thing was Trump's play, DACA for Wall Funding, the Democrats called his bluff, but in doing so they boxed themselves into this shutdown, but then... the GOP in congress comes to their rescue, and gives them something they needed to prop Obamacare up too?

So, now they all have cover on DACA, if Trump gets rid of it, that's his fault, his problem, and I don't think it's gonna be that popular with swing voters, Trump himself has said that the Dreamers are not high on anybodies hit list, and that's true.

Meanwhile, he didn't get funding for the wall, the whole DACA for Wall deal fell through, the Democrats wriggled off the hook on that, the GOP wriggled off the hook on that, and they got rid of the medical device tax which was a big burden to keeping Obamacare?

Classic congress working together to bounce everything back onto the White House, while ducking all the heat and giving their donors what they wanted too, since those medical device companies, which are mostly in Blue States, were lobbying hard to get rid of that tax all along.
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Nothing from congress to reinstate DACA doesn't hurt Trump. He put that on them weeks ago.

All he has to do is nothing. He put it on them, and no one cares what they do.

Just as long as he doesn't go Elion on DACA, he's fine. No more waivers. Congress had their chance.
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Re: Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:22 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Well exactly, the whole DACA thing was Trump's play, DACA for Wall Funding, the Democrats called his bluff, but in doing so they boxed themselves into this shutdown, but then... the GOP in congress comes to their rescue, and gives them something they needed to prop Obamacare up too?

So, now they all have cover on DACA, if Trump gets rid of it, that's his fault, his problem, and I don't think it's gonna be that popular with swing voters, Trump himself has said that the Dreamers are not high on anybodies hit list, and that's true.

Meanwhile, he didn't get funding for the wall, the whole DACA for Wall deal fell through, the Democrats wriggled off the hook on that, the GOP wriggled off the hook on that, and they got rid of the medical device tax which was a big burden to keeping Obamacare?

Classic congress working together to bounce everything back onto the White House, while ducking all the heat and giving their donors what they wanted too, since those medical device companies, which are mostly in Blue States, were lobbying hard to get rid of that tax all along.
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Nothing from congress to reinstate DACA doesn't hurt Trump. He put that on them weeks ago.

All he has to do is nothing. He put it on them, and no one cares what they do.

Just as long as he doesn't go Elion on DACA, he's fine. No more waivers. Congress had their chance.
They don't care, they just don't want to give Trump funding for his wall, they called his bluff on DACA, if he wants to get rid of it, that's fine by the Democrats, just another "atrocity" they can blame on Trump, if they actually cared, they would have made the deal for wall funding, clearly they've calculated that DACA don't mean shit, and it's better to deny Trump his wall, because that is what Trump has promised, so that's his problem.

If Trump starts rounding up the Dreamers and forcibly deporting them, the Democrats will dine out on that all the way to the midterms, CNN & Co will have a field day with it, basically the Democrats have said "go ahead, make our day".
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Re: Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:27 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Well exactly, the whole DACA thing was Trump's play, DACA for Wall Funding, the Democrats called his bluff, but in doing so they boxed themselves into this shutdown, but then... the GOP in congress comes to their rescue, and gives them something they needed to prop Obamacare up too?

So, now they all have cover on DACA, if Trump gets rid of it, that's his fault, his problem, and I don't think it's gonna be that popular with swing voters, Trump himself has said that the Dreamers are not high on anybodies hit list, and that's true.

Meanwhile, he didn't get funding for the wall, the whole DACA for Wall deal fell through, the Democrats wriggled off the hook on that, the GOP wriggled off the hook on that, and they got rid of the medical device tax which was a big burden to keeping Obamacare?

Classic congress working together to bounce everything back onto the White House, while ducking all the heat and giving their donors what they wanted too, since those medical device companies, which are mostly in Blue States, were lobbying hard to get rid of that tax all along.
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Nothing from congress to reinstate DACA doesn't hurt Trump. He put that on them weeks ago.

All he has to do is nothing. He put it on them, and no one cares what they do.

Just as long as he doesn't go Elion on DACA, he's fine. No more waivers. Congress had their chance.
They don't care, they just don't want to give Trump funding for his wall, they called his bluff on DACA, if he wants to get rid of it, that's fine by the Democrats, just another "atrocity" they can blame on Trump, if they actually cared, they would have made the deal for wall funding, clearly they've calculated that DACA don't mean shit, and it's better to deny Trump his wall, because that is what Trump has promised, so that's his problem.

If Trump starts rounding up the Dreamers and forcibly deporting them, the Democrats will dine out on that all the way to the midterms, CNN & Co will have a field day with it, basically the Democrats have said "go ahead, make our day".
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Re: Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:30 pm

But those people really don't amount to a hill o' beans in America, they don't have the juice to swing elections, the Democrats don't need them, if Trump deports them, that's a win for the Democrats, they will just say "this is what happens when you vote for the GOP, who knew?", meanwhile, Trump didn't get his wall funding, which the Democrats clearly want to deny him, because that is a loss for Trump.

Now, the Democrats were down on the mat, the GOP in congress could have demanded wall funding in return for letting them off the mat, but they didn't, they didn't back Trump, instead, they actually gave the Democrats something the Democrats needed, as the "price" for letting them off the hook, so the GOP in congress is working against Trump as well.
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Re: Dear Democrats: Yes, You Really Do Hate America…

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:31 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Well exactly, the whole DACA thing was Trump's play, DACA for Wall Funding, the Democrats called his bluff, but in doing so they boxed themselves into this shutdown, but then... the GOP in congress comes to their rescue, and gives them something they needed to prop Obamacare up too?

So, now they all have cover on DACA, if Trump gets rid of it, that's his fault, his problem, and I don't think it's gonna be that popular with swing voters, Trump himself has said that the Dreamers are not high on anybodies hit list, and that's true.

Meanwhile, he didn't get funding for the wall, the whole DACA for Wall deal fell through, the Democrats wriggled off the hook on that, the GOP wriggled off the hook on that, and they got rid of the medical device tax which was a big burden to keeping Obamacare?

Classic congress working together to bounce everything back onto the White House, while ducking all the heat and giving their donors what they wanted too, since those medical device companies, which are mostly in Blue States, were lobbying hard to get rid of that tax all along.
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Nothing from congress to reinstate DACA doesn't hurt Trump. He put that on them weeks ago.

All he has to do is nothing. He put it on them, and no one cares what they do.

Just as long as he doesn't go Elion on DACA, he's fine. No more waivers. Congress had their chance.
They don't care, they just don't want to give Trump funding for his wall, they called his bluff on DACA, if he wants to get rid of it, that's fine by the Democrats, just another "atrocity" they can blame on Trump, if they actually cared, they would have made the deal for wall funding, clearly they've calculated that DACA don't mean shit, and it's better to deny Trump his wall, because that is what Trump has promised, so that's his problem.

If Trump starts rounding up the Dreamers and forcibly deporting them, the Democrats will dine out on that all the way to the midterms, CNN & Co will have a field day with it, basically the Democrats have said "go ahead, make our day".
That's what I just said.

No round up.

No spectacle.

No deal.

Shut it down again if you want.

America has already spoken.
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