Sloth

[Speaker to Animals]

Is sloth a sin against God? Or consumers? Or the state? Or who?

It's obvious Martin isn't talking about Catholic sloth; I'm quite sure he don't believe in salvation. StA, what kind solth are you talking about?

What kind of sin is sloth, exactly?

Sloth is a sin.

The problem with calling it out, though, is the subjective nature of what makes one slothful. Until recently, most people had to work in order that the community survive through the year. So sloth was not just a spiritual sin but also a kind of crime against society. But we live in a time now where we have more people than we need for production. Thus it's possible for society to survive just fine with some fraction of society doing the producing. That raises all sorts of moral problems all by itself that we have discussed in other threads.


But beyond even that, the problem arises that what one man considers sloth, another might not consider so. If, for example, you are enslaved, then sloth can be seen as a virtue. A man who was made by Nazi occupiers to repair the railroads so more Germans could deploy into France would not be immoral to behave slothfully. Even today, because the corporations that control so much are actively trying to harm society, it doesn't seem virtuous to me for people to produce at maximum efficiency for them at all. Indeed, to my mind, it's more virtuous to check out from the whole program, homestead or start a small business, etc. But Hash thinks that's slothful because these people are not producing as much as they otherwise could if they became what they could consider corporate slaves.

I am sure the feudal lord hates it when the peasants are "slothful", but they might be producing just enough for everybody to survive and not really overdoing it, since they have nothing to gain by overdoing it, and really much to lose.

[K@th]

I have to go to the gym for physical therapy. I'd rather not return to living in extreme pain and trapped in bed most of the day. Thanks.

That's your leftist "toleration" for you. Fuck disabled people, amiright!?

You are all over the forum talking about how badass you are now that you are buff & strong. Honestly, I am glad you are getting strong. Stick with it. PS. I didn't call you a sloth, I just saw a chance to snark at you and I took it. Lighten up, Francis.

[Martin Hash]

Consumption of what?

Sophists in your case.

"The goal of an economy is to increase productivity such that people have to work less-and-less hours to keep the same Standard of Living." - me

[heydaralon]

Fucking sloth man...

I really dislike looking at retarded people. This is irrelevant, but I have a lot of difficulty eating around them and stuff. They gross me out. I feel like an asshole saying that, but its how I feel. There used to be a lot of retards at my parents church, and they always used to disrupt the service grunting and yelling at inappropriate times.

[DBTrek]

Ol massa Hash irate that the field workers are singing their spirituals again.
All that sing-songy melody makin’ while the cotton just a’whiterin’ in the sun! If they have time to move those jaw muscles they should stoop down and pick a little more cotton with their mouths!
All this entertainment distracts from productivity, the sloths!

[DBTrek]

Found your country, Dr. Hash.

Christmas cheer: North Korea bans parties with alcohol and singing
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ch ... spartandhp

Oooh that productivity tho!

[katarn]

Sloth is an old word, kind of strange, rather misunderstood. Laziness is often considered the definition of sloth but lazy people don’t like to do anything, while slothful people don’t actually accomplish anything. Slothful people can be quite active pursuing their own self-gratification, but there is no net achievement. This must be a subconscious choice, otherwise where’s the discussion? Everyone loves to talk about themselves, and they would volunteer their intention to consume without producing if they recognized their motives.

I like your argument about consumption w/o production being ruinous, but that isn't sloth. You can define a word broadly however you like for the purposes of a debate, but this is the same strategy that makes people believe black people can't be racist. Sloth is laziness, if we refer to the Oxford Dictionary. You can define it as you like in this context, but this is a meaning you make for it for this context- people don't misunderstand the word, you have redefined it for yourself.

[Martin Hash]

Google Dictionary, Wikipedia & Snopes say that Nazis weren't socialist. You expect me to give up the opportunity to redefine words yet let everyone else do it?

We have the word "lazy," we don't need a synonym, but if you have a word for busy people that don't produce, I'm open to it. I'd like to use it in further debate.

[DBTrek]

We have the word "lazy," we don't need a synonym, but if you have a word for busy people that don't produce, I'm open to it. I'd like to use it in further debate.

Politician?

[Martin Hash]

BTW, my definition of "liberal" has entered the public geist; listen to the Rubin Report, and elsewhere. I don't think they got it from me but I didn't get it from them either, it was a natural conclusion of intelligent thinkers. That's how words get meanings, and why linguists makes such good propagandists. The Left is word-smithing us as we speak.