Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:22 pm

Kath wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Ever hear of the saying, supply and demand?
Not just a saying, it's the law! Also, completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. You're on fire this week.

Completely relevant, you just again, don't see how... which is why I see now why your son gets so frustrated with you. You live in the slow lane compared to how he thinks.
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by K@th » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:28 pm

Oy. Government banned a product. The free market has nothing to do with this. Supply and demand isn't in this equation.
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Post by DBTrek » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:32 pm

Aww snap.
Kath done been assigned to the autist slow lane.
Net neutrality repeal claims it’s first MHF victim.
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Post by Ph64 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:34 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The funny part about this story is that what the US government is accusing them of doing is exactly what our government and corporations have been doing to Russia for quite a long time.
I've been thinking the same thing about every single "Russiagate" story.

Same with the hyperventilation about Russians supplying dirt farmers with weapons.
As the saying goes there are 10 types of people in this country... Those who buy into government propaganda about Russian cyber warfare while acting like we aren't guilty of the same, and those who don't.

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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:35 pm

Kath wrote:Oy. Government banned a product. The free market has nothing to do with this. Supply and demand isn't in this equation.
Wow, you really didn't comprehend what you read. They are suing the US government because it banned the software from their systems, which once it became public made the people of the US question the software's legitimacy of doing their job... so people stop using it, and in turn, the company loses income.

The problem is that the complaint is fabricated at this point in time because they have not had direct proof it has happened... but what Kaspersky Lab is saying that the potential for market loss is there due to what the government said.
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by Fife » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:39 pm

DBTrek wrote:Aww snap.
Kath done been assigned to the autist slow lane.
Net neutrality repeal claims it’s first MHF victim.
She's right on one thing, though. The free market ain't got sheit to do with Kaspersky getting the Gibs Vapors.

I saw the actual complaint on another page, and they are just asking for injunctive relief, not money damages (at least so far). Judge, we don't even want a settlement, we just want back on that sweet Train O' Gibs!

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Post by K@th » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:43 pm

Not market forces, TC. It's government picking winners and losers and getting sued for damages to their reputation, which yes, impacts their ability to sell.

If the government awards a billion dollar contract to start up that nobody is aware of, they didn't obtain that success via the market, the government picked a winner.
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Post by DBTrek » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:46 pm

Fife wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Aww snap.
Kath done been assigned to the autist slow lane.
Net neutrality repeal claims it’s first MHF victim.
She's right on one thing, though. The free market ain't got sheit to do with Kaspersky getting the Gibs Vapors.

I saw the actual complaint on another page, and they are just asking for injunctive relief, not money damages (at least so far). Judge, we don't even want a settlement, we just want back on that sweet Train O' Gibs!
:lol:

The agony of being ejected from the gravy train.

I should point out, it’s damn near impossible to get government workers thrown off that train. In my 5 years at the FAA I saw countless things that would’ve gotten people fired in the private sector. “Not doing your job” being one of the smaller offenses on that list.

The only two people I knew of to actually be thrown off that train - felons.

One busted for child porn, one busted for murdering his neighbor’s dog.

So I understand Kaperskys exasperation. They’re like “c’mon guys, whose dog did we kill?”
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:46 pm

Kath wrote:Not market forces, TC. It's government picking winners and losers and getting sued for damages to their reputation, which yes, impacts their ability to sell.

If the government awards a billion dollar contract to start up that nobody is aware of, they didn't obtain that success via the market, the government picked a winner.
So in other words, this part is completely irrelevant to the entire complaint correct?
"In filing this appeal, Kaspersky Lab hopes to protect its due process rights under the US Constitution and federal law and repair the harm caused to its commercial operations, its US-based employees, and its US-based business partners."
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by K@th » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Fife wrote: Judge, we don't even want a settlement, we just want back on that sweet Train O' Gibs![/i]
Oh the irony if a judge forces the government to buy a product from the private sector. :twisted:
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