Catalan Independence

[TheReal_ND]

Any bets on whether or not Catalan Independence ends up in a shooting/bombing insurgency ?

Could be some bombings. I was about to go into how liberal they were but I forgot that antifa over there is kind of more serious than stateside.

[Montegriffo]

Any bets on whether or not Catalan Independence ends up in a shooting/bombing insurgency ?

Could be some bombings. I was about to go into how liberal they were but I forgot that antifa over there is kind of more serious than stateside.

That's probably because Spanish fascists are a lot more serious than stateside.

[heydaralon]

Any Europeans understand what the hell is going on that continent?

No idea what's going to happen. And really not much understanding of what is happening. The only impression I'm getting that it's peaceful...so far.

Are there any separatist movements in Scandinavia?

[BjornP]

Any Europeans understand what the hell is going on that continent?

No idea what's going to happen. And really not much understanding of what is happening. The only impression I'm getting that it's peaceful...so far.

Are there any separatist movements in Scandinavia?

Yeah, but they either are super small minorities, or they've already been placated enough by being granted home rule and autonomy, that they don't see a point in declaring themselves entirely independent. The Sami that populate all the states of northern Scandinavia (+parts of Russia) have home rule in Norway, but I don't know their status in Sweden, Finland and Russia. The national minority of Swedes in Finland seem quite content being part of Finland.

In Denmark there are no Sami, but the Greenland inuit already have extended home rule. Legally, they could declare their seccesion today and it would be accepted by the Danish government. Their economy is shit, so they're not going to do that for now, though. Nearby, some of the Faroe Islanders, a small island cluster of peoples who speak a language very similar to Icelandic and who aslo enjoy home rule, tend to ask for more independence and sovereignty, but go just shy of wanting to secceede from the Rigsfællesskab, the informal name for the union between the kingdom of Denmark and the state of Greenland and the Faroe Islands. Think of Greenland and the Faroe islands, as what Northern Ireland and Scotland is to the United Kingdom.

So.... there aren't seperatist movements that can compare to the likes of the Catalan one, or the Basque or N. Irish ones.

[TheReal_ND]

The president of Catalonia (not the president according to Spain, anymore) has entered the Palace of the Generalitat (the Catalan government).
He was suspended by the Spanish government after declaring the independence of Catalonia, but he gives no fucks.

Several Catalan ministries are doing the same. They are acting as if nothing happened, working as the government of Catalonia. They do not recognize the Spanish authorities, nor the fact that they have been fired.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Watches Spanish Civil War 2.0 on tv.
Eats some popcorn.
Sees US troops entering Spain.
Wait, wut?
Gets to pay taxes for invading Europe. Again.

[Otern]

I'm swaying towards the Spaniards now.

When the Catalonian president jump ships, and start managing stuff from Brussels, he's taken this Spanish/Catalan conflict, and escalated it to a European conflict.

Now the rest of Europe, and the EU, is forced to take a stand, one way or the other, and they really shouldn't since this is a matter between Spain and Catalonia.

Spain fucked up by sending in the riot police too early, but Catalonia fucked up even more by sending their government in exile, instead of going to prison, or standing their ground.

The EU bootlicking by the Catalans makes it improbable they're really after true independence, but rather have economical goals.

[Speaker to Animals]

Watches Spanish Civil War 2.0 on tv.
Eats some popcorn.
Sees US troops entering Spain.
Wait, wut?
Gets to pay taxes for invading Europe. Again.

If milk prices go up another dime you might need some serious therapy for PTSD and TBI.

[Okeefenokee]

Watches Spanish Civil War 2.0 on tv.
Eats some popcorn.
Sees US troops entering Spain.
Wait, wut?
Gets to pay taxes for invading Europe. Again.

If milk prices go up another dime you might need some serious therapy for PTSD and TBI.

I'll put together a care package.

[Montegriffo]

I'm swaying towards the Spaniards now.

When the Catalonian president jump ships, and start managing stuff from Brussels, he's taken this Spanish/Catalan conflict, and escalated it to a European conflict.

Now the rest of Europe, and the EU, is forced to take a stand, one way or the other, and they really shouldn't since this is a matter between Spain and Catalonia.

Spain fucked up by sending in the riot police too early, but Catalonia fucked up even more by sending their government in exile, instead of going to prison, or standing their ground.

The EU bootlicking by the Catalans makes it improbable they're really after true independence, but rather have economical goals.

EU is never going to support an independance movement. The last thing it wants is small successful parts of Europe breaking off.
Wise move to get out of the country though. Going to be months and months of legal battles ahead so they might as well be in a Brussels hotel rather than a Spanish prison.