Voter ID Law, The White Man's Last Hope

[Speaker to Animals]

Basically, all the IC has to do is concoct some ostensible reason to put an RFID chip on the ID cards. Obviously, the IC is not going to put scanners everywhere to track you. But just the presence of those chips will entice pretty much every part of the private sector to do it if only to track their own customer flow. That data gets put into databases that the IC can then gain access to in order to better track somebody.

I wouldn't be surprised if the big cities start tracking people with RFID scanners coupled with surveillance networks. That would be local police state action that easily gets subverted by the IC.

And that WILL happen if you go to a national ID card. They already did this with our passports. It's not some hypothetical. If you travel overseas, I highly recommend you get a shielded case to put your passport inside. It's basically an electronic beacon that screams your identity as an American citizen.

[Zlaxer]

Is it possible to red pill illegals? I mean, most of then are coming to the us because their homelands are socialist wastelands.....would effort be more effective on convincing them that DNC policies will just turn the US into their old country?

[KerningChameleon]

Basically, all the IC has to do is concoct some ostensible reason to put an RFID chip on the ID cards. Obviously, the IC is not going to put scanners everywhere to track you. But just the presence of those chips will entice pretty much every part of the private sector to do it if only to track their own customer flow. That data gets put into databases that the IC can then gain access to in order to better track somebody.

I wouldn't be surprised if the big cities start tracking people with RFID scanners coupled with surveillance networks. That would be local police state action that easily gets subverted by the IC.

And that WILL happen if you go to a national ID card. They already did this with our passports. It's not some hypothetical. If you travel overseas, I highly recommend you get a shielded case to put your passport inside. It's basically an electronic beacon that screams your identity as an American citizen.

Implying none of this doesn't already happen with real-time face-recognition software running through security camera footage and the myriad ways to track your cell phone (telcom records, stingray, etc). Not to say your objection is wrong, per se, but you've been tracked in public for years now.

There's a reason protestors have started wearing face concealing garments and sticking their phones in faraday cage pouches when on the march. Also, interesting note, they don't take fingerprints for your passport, because they can use facial structure as seen in your id photo for that purpose instead. Kinda the same concept Apple's using for their Face ID tech in the next iPhone. That's why passport photo requirements are so strict about you not wearing hats, scarves, or glasses and the like.

[Speaker to Animals]

Is it possible to red pill illegals? I mean, most of then are coming to the us because their homelands are socialist wastelands.....would effort be more effective on convincing them that DNC policies will just turn the US into their old country?

No.

[clubgop]

say what?

A bit of hyperbole. The feds are requiring states comply with minimum standards for issuing driver's licenses and if they don't, you'll need a passport to fly out of those states. Currently 9 states will be requiring passports for domestic travel starting in 2018.

It's really getting pretty maddening.

The extension has already passed. 10/10/2017 is the expiry. That being said enforcement won't be until January 22, 2018 so plan accordingly. I predict one day of this mess then the extensions will start getting handed back out or they hastily throw something together the weekend before.

[kybkh]

Is it possible to red pill illegals? I mean, most of then are coming to the us because their homelands are socialist wastelands.....would effort be more effective on convincing them that DNC policies will just turn the US into their old country?

I suspect they are similar to every other human and will look for the easiest sounding answer.

Doesn't get any easier than saying whyte folks cheated and stole all our stuff. Time to give it back.

[Viktorthepirate]

Maybe I'm just pessimistic from my years of being a witness to government, but as a white man I feel pretty confident in saying any form of federal national ID can fuck right off, these opportunistic fucks will not hesitate to add some bullshit requirement or mandate or chip to a voter ID card. Oh it's a voter ID but I can use it to conveniently purchase goods and services after it's forcibly linked to my bank account? Oh and it tracks me for my own safety to ensure a democratic process during election season? Oh and it will conveniently rub my balls as the feds further clamp down on any anonymity I enjoy? Fuck outta here, I empathize with voter fraud but I don't trust those dishonest shitheads in DC

I just show my driver's license. /shrugs. I doubt anybody around here is in favor of a national ID. It's bad enough we have to start showing our passports to travel domestically, soon.

say what?

Of your state doesn't comply with real ID your will need a passport to fly.

I wonder why some states did not comply?

[SuburbanFarmer]

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[clubgop]

I just show my driver's license. /shrugs. I doubt anybody around here is in favor of a national ID. It's bad enough we have to start showing our passports to travel domestically, soon.

say what?

Of your state doesn't comply with real ID your will need a passport to fly.

I wonder why some states did not comply?

To change all the systems of ID for minor, some cosmetic changes? Yeah fuck that. That is expensive. That is another federal mandate, fuck you pay me.