Your funeral.
My OP wrote:I like some of Eminem's older stuff, it was harsh, poignant at times, and entertaining on a base level. He should have stayed retired.
This may be a fight he is willing to take on, but this one he is going to loose. Too many people are getting tired of artists, musicians, actors, and even some politicians speaking negatively about this country, our president, and the way things are run.
You people had your chance, you voted for Bernie, or Hillary, or Jameson. You lost, you have another three years + whatever is left of this one before you get your chance to put your personality into the White House, or Congress, or wherever you wish to take the fight to.
Yes, I said personality, because we have not had a president worthy of the White House in that position for well over 20 years now.
Want to beat Trump, don't play his game.
Be the better person, stand up to Trump with facts, with proof. Don't let NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, Hollywood, or others think and speak for you. Think for yourself, speak for yourself.
I am tired of seeing my feed full of other people's ideas. Other people's complaints, other people's messages. I am tired of seeing people like Eminem come up on my feed to tell me how to think, what to do, how to act.
This is no longer about politics, this is about freedom of thought, freedom of ideas, and how the 24/7 news cycle destroys both.
We are fed details in many cases not yet verified and shown off as facts, and they are gobbled up before the facts can be verified. If they are ever verified, and the media source cares, they will tell the truth, but in many cases that doesn't happen.
Want this country to be back to the way it was when we lead instead of following the rest of the world? Turn off the TV! Read a book, read newspapers, listen to other people's ideas, argue, debate them, befriend them.
The truth will be found if you are willing to look for it. Don't believe everything you hear or everything you read. Don't be a slave to information at your fingertips, if something seems too good to be true, or seems to play right into your or another person's views, and it's from a mainstream media source. It probably is, dig deeper than they did.
You'll thank yourself for it, and I will too.
Their Response wrote: No. I had a long comment, but it doesn’t seem worth it. So I’ll settle for being the dissenting comment in your post.
My Response wrote: So you don’t want people to think for themselves?
Their Response wrote: You know what they say about assuming... this comment also echos one of the parts that really convinced me to say something. I know people are capable of thinking for themselves already. If they weren’t capable of that, it would be so easy to solve world problems. All those videos, and memes... how different are they from quoting a book? Some even come from book already. The root of the problem isn’t that they’re not speaking for themselves, is that you don’t agree with what the conclusions they came to, which led them to use these voices to express that conclusion. But... I’ll just leave it here. That was a really good bait comment. Well done.
My Response wrote: That is why CNN and other news agencies were successful for so long, and why comedians are in some cases the populations form of information/education. A perfect example of that is Jimmy Kimball.
When we went from Walter Cronkite to where he would lay out facts and let you decide to places that today state opinion as fact, and in many cases have nothing to back it up with except more hyperbole and “undisclosed informants” which in many cases are just the writers themselves attempting to give themselves more credibility.
I’ve seen enough that I’ve seen the skilled reporters leave newspapers because they no longer can do their craft honestly.
I’ve also seen people ignore facts for a 10 second clip that has about as much truth to it as Cher has real breasts. (And she doesn’t) and regurgitate it as fact.
Remember, this all started 40+ years ago. We are just starting to realize how fucked we truly are now.
Their Response wrote: one last thing... nostalgia is the most blinding illusion.
My Response wrote: It may be, but there are things that need to change to get back to where we were.
Families need to be families, none of this baby momma crap. None of this single parent BS.
Take care of that, and a good portion of everything else will follow.
But the biggest thing that truly needs to change is our addiction to pre-digested information.
Trump is right in one way, the media is not being held responsible for selling people obvious lies. That needs to change.
Their Response wrote: No. Change will always be needed as long as there are social problems like poverty, crime, etc. However, change should NOT be a rerun to some nostalgic ideal that didn’t work for everyone. That’s why I’ll never be able to jump on the conservative train, I don’t believe we were better. Because you’ll always have to say, “better for who?”
My Response wrote: So having a complete family, and teaching kids to think for themselves is a bad thing?
That is basically what I’m saying needs to happen.
Their Response wrote: we need to do better than before, to change things now. People think for themselves already, does someone think for you? No. For me? No. It’s a misnomer that makes you think of others not as people that can change, but people that are controlled sheep. See why I can’t resist arguing about that phrase. We should be teaching kids to think critically, which will allow them to take criticism without thinking it’s an insult to their intelligence. It also doesn’t asume those that are not thinking critically are controlled sheep, but people that would benefit from perspective and critical thinking. More importantly, asking you to think critically doesn’t ask you to blindly think for yourself OR assume a unified thinking.
My Response wrote: so when you hear people using “talking points” that is thinking for themselves?
When people say, “I vote for ‘x’ because my parents did.”
Is thinking for themselves? Or when they believe the lies being spread on the news daily because they wanted Hillary to win and are butthurt because they looked like fools being so wrong, and they can’t get past that to actually do their jobs?
So it’s Russia, Russia, Russia all the time, when there is more to show Hillary did things with Russia illegally than Trump ever did?
Mind you I didn’t vote for Trump, but he’s my president. People still say “not my president” about him too.
Sorry, that’s not thinking for yourself, that’s towing the party line.
Also, I do think for myself, because I read all sides and come up to my own conclusions. How many people do you know would willingly listen to the other side to get perspective? I don’t know many...
And change for the sake of change is a bad thing.
Going back to a family unit and an interactive one to boot would not be a bad thing.
Teaching kids not to have sex before they are able to deal with the consequences is a bad thing?
If these are conservative ideals, call me a conservative. But don’t tell me I’m wrong thinking this way... it is what made this country what it is, and if being nostalgic for normalcy is wrong, then I will be more than happy to be wrong in this case.
Their Response wrote: You were arguing for your conclusion, it would be fine if you disagreed. But you are arguing that people that disagree have no free will. Once again there are plenty of people objectively smarter than you and me that came to conclusions like mine and yours, they may disagree on the conclusion, but not with the existence of each other’s independent intelligence.
