Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by kybkh » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:13 pm

A war in the boarder states would not bold well for the blue states.

Not sure how a war in the Appalachias would work but I'd give home field advantage to the Red Team.

Also, OH will be on our side this time FWIW.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:16 pm

Maybe them Blue Staters would bring in some ringers, once the bow broke, they'd be free to bring in foreign troops, NATO forces, under a United Nations mandate, maybe they'd invoke Article V in the face of the Red Staters, that'd be about their style.
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:19 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Maybe them Blue Staters would bring in some ringers, once the bow broke, they'd be free to bring in foreign troops, NATO forces, under a United Nations mandate, maybe they'd invoke Article V in the face of the Red Staters, that'd be about their style.

That was John Wesley Rawles prediction of an American collapse. A new US puppet government set up in Tennessee, run by Blue Hat Globalists.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:35 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Maybe them Blue Staters would bring in some ringers, once the bow broke, they'd be free to bring in foreign troops, NATO forces, under a United Nations mandate, maybe they'd invoke Article V in the face of the Red Staters, that'd be about their style.

That was John Wesley Rawles prediction of an American collapse. A new US puppet government set up in Tennessee, run by Blue Hat Globalists.
Tennessee? That seems like a strange place to put it, why would they ever move it out of where it is now, in Manhattan?
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:11 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Maybe them Blue Staters would bring in some ringers, once the bow broke, they'd be free to bring in foreign troops, NATO forces, under a United Nations mandate, maybe they'd invoke Article V in the face of the Red Staters, that'd be about their style.

That was John Wesley Rawles prediction of an American collapse. A new US puppet government set up in Tennessee, run by Blue Hat Globalists.
Tennessee? That seems like a strange place to put it, why would they ever move it out of where it is now, in Manhattan?
Actually it was at Ft Knox, KY. I had to grab the book. If I remember right, all the big cities, DC included just imploded and were not safe. In his book NYC is a wasteland and complete chaos. The writing is crappy, the theory is interesting, but some of his ideas of out in left field.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:15 pm

Meh, I don't think the cities would collapse, that's just Red Staters projecting their fantasy of what would happen, I think the Blue Staters would be powerful, the Red Staters would be at a strategic disadvantage whatever tactical and operational prowess they could muster, I think the Blue Imperial Hegenomy would still be based in Manhattan, as for the Red State Rebel Alliance?

Peterson AFB Colorado, Cheyenne Mountain, of course.
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:33 pm

Yeah, there is no historical basis for cities just being destroyed and ceasing to exist across an entire nation.

Other fantasy elements of his books are the 'Golden Horde', roving bands of outlaws and bikers sweeping across the country, killing, raping, looting everything they want. 299 Days is the only of these types of books I've read that do a decent job at describing a collapse. The author wisely says it would be a partial collapse, with inflation, hyperinflation, the Feds essentially deputizing loyal citizen groups, local politicians going crazy drunk with power, supplies and aid to affected areas being used as leverage, the Feds using the crisis to get rid of all cash, trying to strengthen there power.
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Post by clubgop » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:50 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Meh, I don't think the cities would collapse, that's just Red Staters projecting their fantasy of what would happen, I think the Blue Staters would be powerful, the Red Staters would be at a strategic disadvantage whatever tactical and operational prowess they could muster, I think the Blue Imperial Hegenomy would still be based in Manhattan, as for the Red State Rebel Alliance?

Peterson AFB Colorado, Cheyenne Mountain, of course.
Take a look at Manhattan on a map, a few hundred troops blocking 2 tunnels, 3 bridges and you have 10 million in a box. Red states have factories sitting dormant ready to make shit. The red states are food and energy, the blue states can't even cook a can of beans without us. Look at California if not for Red states they would not gas, no oil refinery, no power, and no fucking water, so no food.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:59 pm

clubgop wrote: Take a look at Manhattan on a map, a few hundred troops blocking 2 tunnels, 3 bridges and you have 10 million in a box. Red states have factories sitting dormant ready to make shit. The red states are food and energy, the blue states can't even cook a can of beans without us. Look at California if not for Red states they would not gas, no oil refinery, no power, and no fucking water, so no food.
Close the bridges to Manhattan? Them hillbillies ain't gonna get within a thousand miles of Manhattan, they'd be fleeing out into Fly Over Country to shelter from the Blue storm which would befall them.

The Blue Imperial Hegenomy would have the international financing, there's zero chance the rest of the world sides with the Red Staters, the world sides with the Blue Staters, and so they would have access to the world, they would still be rich, the Red Staters would be the poor boys, and as for resources, the Blue Staters can get all that from Canada, oil, gas, power, water, and gold, Canada is with the Blue Staters, that's a given, it's the Red Staters who would be cut off, because the Blue Staters would rule the waves, they'd take the whole eastern seaboard, the Red Staters would have to be trying to run the gauntlet through the Gulf of Mexico, otherwise they'd be land locked.

The first thing the Blue Staters would go after would be the Red food supply, ain't no way they could protect their crops, they can go underground to escape the robotic Arc Light, but they can't take their farms underground with them, so their food supply is wide open to attack, and they're not going to have the strategically powerful military to retaliate with in kind.

It would be like the Confederacy all over again, the Red Staters threadbare down on the plantation, while the Blue Staters lived high on the hog in New York.

The Red Staters are gonna be the Vietcong in this war, except with no support from the Russians nor Chinese, the Russians and Chinese would side with the Blue Staters, everybody would, the whole world would come down on the Red Staters, without quarter nor mercy, wouldn't matter how good the Red Riflemen were, because most of them would never see what killed them, it would be robotic death from above, just like it is in Waziristan, except on steroids.

Maybe someday they'd win their Independence, after a long and brutal war of attrition, but that war would come first, and it would very one sided in favour of the Blue.
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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:26 pm

Pretty sure the Blue Staters could get Mexico to help block off the gulf too. ;)
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