So, the Alt-Right exists but Alt-Left doesn't?

[Hwen Hoshino]

The Alt-Right seems to be deeply inspired by Plato's Republic, wherein there were the Five Regimes, and in the regime of Democracy, it inevitably led to degeneracy and disorder, to the point where any right thinking and decent people would be clambering for an authoritarian to take control in order to protect them from the mob.

But you see, this authoritarian impulse is not meant to bring down the republic, because they believe the republic is already dead, sort of zombie republic walking, lurching towards the Collapse as Marty would call it.

In Plato's Republic, Democracy leads to becoming consumed with fulfilling "unecessary desires", and in doing so, the people lose their compass, they become degenerate and society has no priorities nor ends to justify the means, and this leads to anarchy, there's no discipline and so it's chaos, which then leads to the clambering for order at any cost.

Basically, all republics go through the cycle, starting with the only just condition, which is aristocracy, and then degerates down through the four unjust conditions, timocracy, oligarchy, democracy, and tyranny.

Now, the thing is, the aristrocrats are the only just rulers, which I gather in America is like the white people who used to run America right, and the tyranny, is not so much a dictator, it's more the tyranny of a mob, sort of like the Democrats and a bunch o' Mexicans, and so I gather at some point, after the Collapse, the Alt Right restarts everything? Back to the aristocracy of white people who ran shit right?

Something like that, whatever, like I said, it's a doomsday cult, you get the picture; you burn the village to save the village and then you build a fortified hamlet for the white people, sort of like William Westmoreland in Vietnam.

Anyways, this is why you need to get those AR15's and move out of the cities, then once all the Democrats and Immigrants have wiped each other out, you're back to the New Jerusalem, praise the Lord.

What makes you think they will mass murder one another?

[Smitty-48]

What makes you think they will mass murder one another?

Who said I did?

[Speaker to Animals]

[GloryofGreece]

The amalgamation that makes of the different facets of the Left is never unified enough to be anything much more than chaotic. They eat their own. Most the time the Right doesn't. That's one reason America never really has to "worry" about going communist or anything that far on the spectrum.

[Smitty-48]

The amalgamation that makes of the different facets of the Left is never unified enough to be anything much more than chaotic. They eat their own. Most the time the Right doesn't. That's one reason America never really has to "worry" about going communist or anything that far on the spectrum.

Oh, no, America does indeed have to "worry" about communists, the American system of liberty uber alles will produce both winners and losers, but if there is too many losers, communism will rear its head, the New Dealers in the Great Depression, that was a bunch of commies in sheeps clothing, the communists of America, don't look like the Soviets, they might not be Communists, but they are communists none the less.

Even the most super secret and vital American project of all time, the Manhattan Project, that was lousy with commies, Robert Oppenheimer was an avowed communist, and although he didn't betray America, several other of the commies in the ranks most certainly did.

[Hwen Hoshino]

What makes you think they will mass murder one another?

Who said I did?

You certainly implied somethign like that.

[Smitty-48]

What makes you think they will mass murder one another?

Who said I did?

You certainly implied somethign like that.

I didn't imply anything, I simply articulated the Alt-Right point of view, I'm not Alt-Right, I'm a Tory, we're not into the whole doomsday cult thing.

No enemies on the Right, doesn't mean you drink the kool-aid of all the factions on the Right, I don't drink the Alt-Right kool-aid, that's more of an American thing.

[The Conservative]

There's no requirement for an Alternative Left, the Left has not changed its stance since the French Revolution, the Right however, embraced Classical Liberalism and the Enlightenment since the Glorious Revoltution of 1688, further entrenched by subsequent American Revolution.

The Alternative Right are simply those on the Right which now reject Classical Liberalism and harken back to the pre-Enlightenment West, in essence, back to the House of Bourbon and the Divine Right of Kings as christened by the Pope in Rome, so really, the Alt-Right, is simply ye Olde Right.

Then explain to me why people still think the parties flipped?

[Speaker to Animals]

There's no requirement for an Alternative Left, the Left has not changed its stance since the French Revolution, the Right however, embraced Classical Liberalism and the Enlightenment since the Glorious Revoltution of 1688, further entrenched by subsequent American Revolution.

The Alternative Right are simply those on the Right which now reject Classical Liberalism and harken back to the pre-Enlightenment West, in essence, back to the House of Bourbon and the Divine Right of Kings as christened by the Pope in Rome, so really, the Alt-Right, is simply ye Olde Right.

Then explain to me why people still think the parties flipped?

Because they don't want to believe the party they support, and by extension their own politics, is responsible for most of the worst evils in American history. They especially don't want to believe that their own personal moral degeneration comes with collective consequences that are plain to see in history. It's easier to mix it up and pretend like "everybody is guilty of bad stuff historically" in a pathetic attempt at moral equivalence than to look in the mirror objectively.

"We all did bad stuff back then" is the flip side of "You didn't build that".

[Smitty-48]

There's no requirement for an Alternative Left, the Left has not changed its stance since the French Revolution, the Right however, embraced Classical Liberalism and the Enlightenment since the Glorious Revoltution of 1688, further entrenched by subsequent American Revolution.

The Alternative Right are simply those on the Right which now reject Classical Liberalism and harken back to the pre-Enlightenment West, in essence, back to the House of Bourbon and the Divine Right of Kings as christened by the Pope in Rome, so really, the Alt-Right, is simply ye Olde Right.

Then explain to me why people still think the parties flipped?

If people pay any attention to the parties at all, then they're not really Alt-Right, they're just posers, Alt-Right is when you move beyond the parties and elections, and get your AR15 and head for the hills, get out of the cities and get back to that good ol' country living, and maybe build yourself a bunker, because there's no hope of saving the republic, when the republic is "already dead", if you're Alt-Right, you're preparing for the next stage, when it all comes crashing down.

Like, whatever you want to call it, the Establishment, the Deep State, the Cathedral, it's not going to be stopped, you're not going to overthrow it, it's not saveable, there is no "draining the swamp", if Alt-Right, you've already written it off and moved on; "it will have to get much worse before it gets better".