H-1B for the chopping block?

[The Conservative]

That's what is so weird. Immigration reform is supported by most Americans. Most Americans want these people deported. They support the wall. But if you listen to the propaganda MSM or to the politicians (especially the republican neocons), you'd think this is fringe politics.

Don't forget the courts.
The courts are full-tilt "Hell no you can't make rules for people entering this country", for some odd reason.

I don't believe for a second that "most Americans" are in favor of a multi-multi-multi-billion-dollar concrete wall to nowhere. The reasons for Trump's election go way beyond that.

As for the courts, you cannot make racial rules. That's not America. You already have laws on immigration, so either enforce them or don't. But don't pretend that you're going to suddenly "export all the brown people".

One acronym for you to counter your argument: NASA.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Don't forget the courts.
The courts are full-tilt "Hell no you can't make rules for people entering this country", for some odd reason.

I don't believe for a second that "most Americans" are in favor of a multi-multi-multi-billion-dollar concrete wall to nowhere. The reasons for Trump's election go way beyond that.

As for the courts, you cannot make racial rules. That's not America. You already have laws on immigration, so either enforce them or don't. But don't pretend that you're going to suddenly "export all the brown people".

One acronym for you to counter your argument: NASA.

Yes, because the exploration of the universe is obviously a boondoggle, no different than building a pointless concrete boner that destroys our own economy.

[The Conservative]

I don't believe for a second that "most Americans" are in favor of a multi-multi-multi-billion-dollar concrete wall to nowhere. The reasons for Trump's election go way beyond that.

As for the courts, you cannot make racial rules. That's not America. You already have laws on immigration, so either enforce them or don't. But don't pretend that you're going to suddenly "export all the brown people".

One acronym for you to counter your argument: NASA.

Yes, because the exploration of the universe is obviously a boondoggle, no different than building a pointless concrete boner that destroys our own economy.

Oh, you mean like how the H1-B Visa was meant to help the American workforce instead it has hurt it.

[SuburbanFarmer]

One acronym for you to counter your argument: NASA.

Yes, because the exploration of the universe is obviously a boondoggle, no different than building a pointless concrete boner that destroys our own economy.

Oh, you mean like how the H1-B Visa was meant to help the American workforce instead it has hurt it.

That's your counter-point? One fucked up corporatocracy policy means that NASA is the same as concrete bonerstan?
Where the hell are you going with this?

[DBTrek]

Right, but we are "banning travel from Muslim countries", as POTUS said. On camera. To the world.

And then we're pulling people over "on suspicion of illegal immigration". Because your fucking car says "illegal" on it? No. Because the driver is brown.

It's all the same shit, covered by weak veneer arguments about a vague understanding of the economy, or national pride, or Medicare, or whatever-sounds-relevant. Meanwhile, white nationalists are marching in the street, BUT THATS TOTALLY NOT WHAT IT MEANS because SJWs are stupid and MUH GUNZ and stuff fuck it gimme a beer bitch.

Didn't make it too far in the Computer Science world, eh? Clearly never been exposed to the idea of heuristics. You know . . . the crazy idea that if you're looking for a pin number then you only search combinations of integers and not combinations of characters. Laymen might refer to it as common sense - using ones limited resources to attack the problem where it is most likely to be found.

Or "racial profiling", if you're a fool who has no concept of resource management.

"Let's pause immigration from the seven nations the last president declared as terrorist supporting regimes"
Why?
Well . . . the obvious answer is because those are the nations most likely to export terrorists.
But the GCF/Snowflake answer is, of course, RACISM!!!!

"We're investigating email and wire fraud from abroad, I've assigned several agents to monitor Nigeria"
Why?
Well . . . the obvious answer is because Nigeria is well known for running global email scams.
But the GCF/Snowflake answer is, of course, RACISM!!!!

Pro tip: When your dogma is effectively making you an idiot, it's probably time to change up the ol' worldview.

[SuburbanFarmer]

"Let's pause immigration from the seven nations the last president declared as terrorist supporting regimes"

If that had been the actual proposal, then I probably would have supported it with a yawn.

Also, amazing how Saudi Arabia continues to elude all of these "Terror Lists"

[DBTrek]

"Let's pause immigration from the seven nations the last president declared as terrorist supporting regimes"

If that had been the actual proposal, then I probably would have supported it with a yawn.

Also, amazing how Saudi Arabia continues to elude all of these "Terror Lists"

• The seven Muslim-majority countries targeted in President Trump's executive order on immigration were initially identified as "countries of concern" under the Obama administration.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/ ... index.html

[SuburbanFarmer]

"Let's pause immigration from the seven nations the last president declared as terrorist supporting regimes"

If that had been the actual proposal, then I probably would have supported it with a yawn.

Also, amazing how Saudi Arabia continues to elude all of these "Terror Lists"

• The seven Muslim-majority countries targeted in President Trump's executive order on immigration were initially identified as "countries of concern" under the Obama administration.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/ ... index.html

"Countries of Concern". Nice. Obviously the same thing, really.

[DBTrek]

• The seven Muslim-majority countries targeted in President Trump's executive order on immigration were initially identified as "countries of concern" under the Obama administration.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/ ... index.html

"Countries of Concern". Nice. Obviously the same thing, really.

Same article:

• In December 2015, President Obama signed into law a measure placing limited restrictions on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Two months later, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to the list, in what it called an effort to address "the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters."

That whole news-cycle thing just sort of passed you by, eh? Even now you have to wrestle the roided-up donkey of your own confirmation bias, and can't fully accept that it wasn't RACISM™ driving the policy.
Ouch, dude.
Ouch.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Yeah, I totally missed the entire election cycle. No other information is relevant to this discussion, clearly.