Trump soils the Boy Scouts

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:11 pm

brewster wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Lordy.

How many times can we remember Dems politicizing the boy scouts, a christian organization, in the past ten or so years?
Christian? No, not in any reality, only in your mind.
The extent differs from place to place. You aren't in Utah, are you?

And no shit taking them to court to force them to accept something they rejected didn't rally them to the sides of the Dems.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:17 pm

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If there is no religion how did they pledge loyalty to Trumpler and Putinlini?

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by ssu » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:50 pm

brewster wrote:Is it really beyond this person that a speech to children shouldn't be political? They invited him as they've invited the last 19 presidents. Why does he have to dirty everything he touches? My son is an Eagle Scout, we looked past the public issues the scouts have had and saw the good. The Scouts have tried hard to bring themselves into the modern world and not be viewed as a reactionary old guard institution. This abuse of trust and good faith is as disgusting.
Trump would start to talk about himself and present politics if he was giving an eulogy in a funeral as the President of the US.

Trump is the 70-year old petulant grandpa that he is and as it's televised, he's speaking to his supporters. Who cares about the actual people / children in front of him. He doesn't. The politics part is typical Trump, and actually the "President giving an inspiring story to children"-part is classic Trump too:
TRUMP: ...And he went out and bought a big yacht, and he had a very interesting life. I won’t go any more than that because you’re Boy Scouts, so I’m not going to tell you what he did.

AUDIENCE: Booo --

TRUMP: Should I tell you? Should I tell you?

AUDIENCE: Yes!

TRUMP: Oh, you’re Boy Scouts, but you know life. You know life. So -- look at you. Who would think this is the Boy Scouts, right?

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:57 pm

He can't keep getting away with it.

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by brewster » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:27 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
The extent differs from place to place. You aren't in Utah, are you?
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The fact that the LDS Church basically made Scouts mandatory doesn't mean that the scouts are a Christian organization. The dominance of LDS in Scouts leadership was the basic problem in the inclusion issue.
Time Marches On, no doubt back in the day letting kids of color into the Scouts was a big deal too.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:30 pm

Wtf? Like colored kids? This isn't the right wing youth squad...

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by brewster » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:48 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Wtf? Like colored kids? This isn't the right wing youth squad...
I actually didn't know the exact history but it's pretty much as I expected. Bigotry doesn't change much.
For much of the early 20th century, the Scouts' national leadership did not endorse segregation or discrimination but still gave wide discretion to councils to set their own racial policies. Unsurprisingly, many chapters — especially in the segregated South — opted not to admit black Scouts. Some troops imposed long waiting periods before letting blacks join, while others allowed black boys to join but prohibited them from wearing uniforms. (Boy Scout officials in Richmond, Va., once even threatened to stage a public burning of Scout uniforms if black boys were permitted to wear them.) And while the first black troop was formed in 1911, just a year after the Boy Scouts' founding, it wasn't until decades later that many troops eased their rules on segregation, and not until 1974 when the aforementioned Old Hickory council — one of the last segregated Boy Scout councils — finally integrated.
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/30/170585132 ... ntegration
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:49 pm

but still gave wide discretion to councils to set their own racial policies
Freedom of association is oppression and shiet. How dare you deprive brown people of your presence.

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by clubgop » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:15 pm

brewster wrote:
Kazmyr wrote:We've already crossed the Rubicon of politicizing everything.

Think of how many graduation speeches have railed on Trump as of late, or alternatively had the graduating students throw a hissy fit at the speaker (Betsy DeVos).

It's the American M.O., now.
In both those cases it's private citizens expressing themselves, not an elected official in his official capacity. Putting party before country is definitely the road to the end of our democracy.
You had a point here and then as usual. you overplay your hand. "The road to the end of our democracy" this aint, you overly dramatic bitch.

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by clubgop » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:25 pm

The right has to stop politicizing children? Yeah you bitches first.