We Wuz Olmec

[Speaker to Animals]

It seems to me the foreign origins theories of the Olmecs should have bared out in genetic evidence. If it were so, there had to have been some amount of breeding with Mayan and northern cultures. Those genetics should still be detectable today.

Even the nose.. that's still there in indigenous peoples..

[Okeefenokee]

family search doesn't look like it has anything for my family.

[TheReal_ND]

It's Mormon anyway. Part of the reason they are so fastidious about genealogy is that they are praying for the souls of non Mormons. I think they are trying to achieve a space race victory or something.

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

It seems to me the foreign origins theories of the Olmecs should have bared out in genetic evidence. If it were so, there had to have been some amount of breeding with Mayan and northern cultures. Those genetics should still be detectable today.

Even the nose.. that's still there in indigenous peoples..

Genetics and morphology don't always go hand in hand.

[Ex-California]

family search doesn't look like it has anything for my family.

It only has one branch of my family that I can find, and that's that Scots-Irish people.

I'm pretty sure a cousin on that side got pretty into genealogy pre internet so that's where all those connections may have been made. I'm still working on more connections though

[TheReal_ND]

Parker is English but it probably carried over to Scotland.

Surprisingly common name however it is rarely used as a first name these days. I'm the fourth so I have the uncommon fortune of bearing a last name as a first name.

[Speaker to Animals]

It seems to me the foreign origins theories of the Olmecs should have bared out in genetic evidence. If it were so, there had to have been some amount of breeding with Mayan and northern cultures. Those genetics should still be detectable today.

Even the nose.. that's still there in indigenous peoples..

Genetics and morphology don't always go hand in hand.

Sure, but when you make a baby, it's not like alleles are taken from each side at random. You get long strands from each parent's DNA. It takes a really long time for that to get diluted. This is why companies that test your DNA can show you all sorts of genetic heritage going back pretty far.

If there existed this huge civilization in Mesoamerica consisting of people of Polynesian descent, then surely we would be able to detect that.

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

It seems to me the foreign origins theories of the Olmecs should have bared out in genetic evidence. If it were so, there had to have been some amount of breeding with Mayan and northern cultures. Those genetics should still be detectable today.

Even the nose.. that's still there in indigenous peoples..

Genetics and morphology don't always go hand in hand.

Sure, but when you make a baby, it's not like alleles are taken from each side at random. You get long strands from each parent's DNA. It takes a really long time for that to get diluted. This is why companies that test your DNA can show you all sorts of genetic heritage going back pretty far.

If there existed this huge civilization in Mesoamerica consisting of people of Polynesian descent, then surely we would be able to detect that.

They'd have to be looking for it--and, of course, should they find it, they could always dismiss it as later "contamination" (for want of a better word.) So when it comes to Kennewick Man, the best they can tell us is "Kennewick Man is closer to modern Native Americans than to any other population worldwide." They said that genetic comparisons show "continuity with Native North Americans" The same study confirmed the mitochondrial haplogroup X2a and the Y-chromosome haplogroup Q-M3 of Kennewick Man, both lineages are found almost exclusively among modern Native Americans.
Genetics can be very useful, but never definitive--it seems--plus, it's still expensive

[jbird4049]

Yeah every Olmec head I've seen is decidedly negroid in features. Also, I suspect there is some Asian influence somehow in Guatemala. I think I told this story before, but I'm simply convinced. Basically I worked with a bunch of illegals and one of the group were a family that the Mexicans just called, Indios. They didn't speak Spanish to each other and I asked them who they were and they called themselves Tzotzil Indians. The eye shape and language pattern was decidedly asiatic though. I've had a hard time looking their tribe up on the internet so far but my phone just autocorrected the name so maybe I'll look again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valdivia_culture

I wouldn't put it past the Japanese to get to the Americas. Off course the landlubber archaeologists rarely grasp the idea of intercontinental travel via "little boats."

There's been some suggestion that the Hopi are actually Japanese because their weird ass language is not related to any other language especially to any nearby. Somebody noticed similarities to Japanese and If my memory is good, some people including monks were noted as sailed from Japan waaay back. I'm guessing when the Emperor actually ruled and was not a figurehead. It's possible.

And there have been serious suggestions that the Polynesians did make multiple, perhaps, regular trips to South America. If anyone could have, it would have been them.

[heydaralon]

The Toltecs would make the Olmecs their bitch any day of the week. Iron Age ass pussy ass pre columbian exchange ass niggas.