Bye Bye Cassini

[heydaralon]

If you were born one hundred years from now into a highly automated world where the very few people who were needed to work were only devoted to keeping the system running to support the large majority of humanity that does no work, which would you prefer?

1. Operating the replicator to support people who do nothing for you in return

2. Sitting on your ass while someone else supports you for free

3. Building a new civilization away from earth with a group of people who also are not content with option 1 or 2.

I don't think much of the limited resources angle. The planet ain't tapped, and the solar system hasn't even been scratched.

There's the issue of our government having finite resources though. It would cost more than the bank bailout and Iraq to set up what you are trying to do. I think its a cool idea, I just don't see it happening any time soon. Maybe ever. You would have difficulty selling it to the electorate too, although I imagine it would create lots of jobs in manufacturing, engineering, and construction. Maybe try to sell the public on that aspect.

I think the idea of trying to get resources from asteroids is cool too, but I never really got how you could safely bring them back to Earth.

[Okeefenokee]

I'm not saying the government has to do it.

I know that other options look pretty slim in possibility.

Is it just the funding aspect of it being a government project that you are arguing against?

[Penner]

I say we get average Americans and just make them astronauts:

[Okeefenokee]

I say we get average Americans and just make them astronauts:

No, average people have to stay here a mind the shop.

[heydaralon]

I'm not saying the government has to do it.

I know that other options look pretty slim in possibility.

Is it just the funding aspect of it being a government project that you are arguing against?

No. The moon landing was a government program, and it is one of the most impressive projects our country has ever attempted. World War II was also the result of government cooperating with industry and it is also one of our proudest moments. I just don't really know how the government would sell the American people on this particular project when our country is in a state of disarray. It seems to me that people would get angry at their representatives for proposing to spend a large amount of the budget on something that would probably not pay off until decades later. Its kind of like how Columbus had to shop around his voyage idea to several different monarchs in Europe before he finally got a backer.

I think it would be awesome for a human being to enter Venus' atmosphere, or set foot on Mars. It just seems like such a distant thing to me when you see all the culture wars, budget problems, and foreign policy crisis' on the news every day. Elon Musk is doing some cool stuff, so maybe the project could start in the private sector. If it worked out there, maybe the public would get behind it and encourage the government to spend more on space travel and R and D. I believe a large scale program like that would create lots of jobs, so there would be many benefits, I just don't really see much of the public behind this atm.

[Penner]

[jbird4049]

I take it that you're a Simpsons fan?

I'm not saying the government has to do it.

I know that other options look pretty slim in possibility.

Is it just the funding aspect of it being a government project that you are arguing against?

No. The moon landing was a government program, and it is one of the most impressive projects our country has ever attempted. World War II was also the result of government cooperating with industry and it is also one of our proudest moments. I just don't really know how the government would sell the American people on this particular project when our country is in a state of disarray. It seems to me that people would get angry at their representatives for proposing to spend a large amount of the budget on something that would probably not pay off until decades later. Its kind of like how Columbus had to shop around his voyage idea to several different monarchs in Europe before he finally got a backer.

I think it would be awesome for a human being to enter Venus' atmosphere, or set foot on Mars. It just seems like such a distant thing to me when you see all the culture wars, budget problems, and foreign policy crisis' on the news every day. Elon Musk is doing some cool stuff, so maybe the project could start in the private sector. If it worked out there, maybe the public would get behind it and encourage the government to spend more on space travel and R and D. I believe a large scale program like that would create lots of jobs, so there would be many benefits, I just don't really see much of the public behind this atm.

It's simply amazin' how there's always a means, and a justification, to be found for bank bailouts, tax breaks for the wealthy, farm subsidies, weapons that don't work, wars that don't want, and other similar thieving, but food stamps, railroads, tax increases on the 1% and corporations, higher education, lead poisoning (Flint is just an extreme example. It's everywhere), medical care, and NASA is Communism and therefore evil shit.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I take it that you're a Simpsons fan?

I'm not saying the government has to do it.

I know that other options look pretty slim in possibility.

Is it just the funding aspect of it being a government project that you are arguing against?

No. The moon landing was a government program, and it is one of the most impressive projects our country has ever attempted. World War II was also the result of government cooperating with industry and it is also one of our proudest moments. I just don't really know how the government would sell the American people on this particular project when our country is in a state of disarray. It seems to me that people would get angry at their representatives for proposing to spend a large amount of the budget on something that would probably not pay off until decades later. Its kind of like how Columbus had to shop around his voyage idea to several different monarchs in Europe before he finally got a backer.

I think it would be awesome for a human being to enter Venus' atmosphere, or set foot on Mars. It just seems like such a distant thing to me when you see all the culture wars, budget problems, and foreign policy crisis' on the news every day. Elon Musk is doing some cool stuff, so maybe the project could start in the private sector. If it worked out there, maybe the public would get behind it and encourage the government to spend more on space travel and R and D. I believe a large scale program like that would create lots of jobs, so there would be many benefits, I just don't really see much of the public behind this atm.

It's simply amazin' how there's always a means, and a justification, to be found for bank bailouts, tax breaks for the wealthy, farm subsidies, weapons that don't work, wars that don't want, and other similar thieving, but food stamps, railroads, tax increases on the 1% and corporations, higher education, lead poisoning (Flint is just an extreme example. It's everywhere), medical care, and NASA is Communism and therefore evil shit.

Funny how that works, isn't it.. almost as though people were thinking exactly what the 1% commands them to...

[Okeefenokee]

Y'all have fun kicking that strawman you created.

Get him!

[jbird4049]

Y'all have fun kicking that strawman you created.

Get him!

Those who have always get more. Those who don't always get less.