Can you actually refute Okee's or StA's arguments, or are you going to continue being glib in an attempt to discredit points of view you disagree with?Montegriffo wrote:You just don't get it do you Penner? All of the left is bad and the right can do no wrong. It's very simple really and that's what helps the Trumpites understand it....Penner wrote:Since when is the Left trying to murder people?Speaker to Animals wrote:
Is the alt-right trying to murder people on the streets for wearing the wrong hat or expressing the wrong opinion? No?
False moral equivalence fallacy.
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There is hardly even a dispute to speak of here...
StA's posiiton is intentionally overstated... and so Monte is playing the easy hand of calling the overstatement...
Sure it's tiresome.
I will say it again... the alt right has produced a critique of the left that holds water... the mainstream left has dismissed this critique, labelling the entire movement as "fascist" and "hitler"... this is what raises so much ire on the right... understandably so.
So the right retaliates with blanket demonizing the left... and around and around we go.
StA's posiiton is intentionally overstated... and so Monte is playing the easy hand of calling the overstatement...
Sure it's tiresome.
I will say it again... the alt right has produced a critique of the left that holds water... the mainstream left has dismissed this critique, labelling the entire movement as "fascist" and "hitler"... this is what raises so much ire on the right... understandably so.
So the right retaliates with blanket demonizing the left... and around and around we go.
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You forgot about the terrorists in the street attacking their political opponents. Must have just slipped your mind.DrYouth wrote:There is hardly even a dispute to speak of here...
StA's posiiton is intentionally overstated... and so Monte is playing the easy hand of calling the overstatement...
Sure it's tiresome.
I will say it again... the alt right has produced a critique of the left that holds water... the mainstream left has dismissed this critique, labelling the entire movement as "fascist" and "hitler"... this is what raises so much ire on the right... understandably so.
So the right retaliates with blanket demonizing the left... and around and around we go.
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I didn't forget...
That's the radical left being "anti-fascist" thugs... and the mainstream media scratching their heads about it because it doesn't fit the script.
We live in interesting times.
That's the radical left being "anti-fascist" thugs... and the mainstream media scratching their heads about it because it doesn't fit the script.
We live in interesting times.
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With a title that claims "the left does not reason" glib is the only option. LVH and the good Doctor have refuted quite successfully already but only been answered with "the left is violent". In this case there seems little point in repeating what they said so I figured ridicule was the only option available. It's a proud British tradition of political satire which can be useful in countering extremism.Xenophon wrote:Can you actually refute Okee's or StA's arguments, or are you going to continue being glib in an attempt to discredit points of view you disagree with?Montegriffo wrote:You just don't get it do you Penner? All of the left is bad and the right can do no wrong. It's very simple really and that's what helps the Trumpites understand it....Penner wrote:
Since when is the Left trying to murder people?
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Interesting.
The movement Conservatives using the Republican Party, when they were out of power, or wanted more, used lies, distortions, attacks of all kinds to weaken both government, and the movement Liberals in the Democratic Party. Now that the neo-liberals and their tool, the Democratic Party are loosing power, they use similar tactics.
But it's all those nasty, nasty, vile Liberals/Democrats being jerks, fools, and idiots, and not those saintly Conservatives/Republicans. What nonsense.
We are all being tools of the elites and the political parties. So stop please, and use your brains.
Neither party is actually liberal, or conservative, and focusing on the unthinking fanatics like the Teapartiers, or the the SJWs, is doing their work in undermining us, and enriching the elites. If you are an actual Conservative, Moderate, or Liberal, you do not have parties that represent you.
We all have parties masquerading as conservative, and liberal, pretending that they work for us. Maybe, just maybe we should work together using what we have in common, which is the same in most things?
The movement Conservatives using the Republican Party, when they were out of power, or wanted more, used lies, distortions, attacks of all kinds to weaken both government, and the movement Liberals in the Democratic Party. Now that the neo-liberals and their tool, the Democratic Party are loosing power, they use similar tactics.
But it's all those nasty, nasty, vile Liberals/Democrats being jerks, fools, and idiots, and not those saintly Conservatives/Republicans. What nonsense.
We are all being tools of the elites and the political parties. So stop please, and use your brains.
Neither party is actually liberal, or conservative, and focusing on the unthinking fanatics like the Teapartiers, or the the SJWs, is doing their work in undermining us, and enriching the elites. If you are an actual Conservative, Moderate, or Liberal, you do not have parties that represent you.
We all have parties masquerading as conservative, and liberal, pretending that they work for us. Maybe, just maybe we should work together using what we have in common, which is the same in most things?
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
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If the right is the same, show the evidence. Show us the alt-right riots. We're waiting.jbird4049 wrote:Interesting.
The movement Conservatives using the Republican Party, when they were out of power, or wanted more, used lies, distortions, attacks of all kinds to weaken both government, and the movement Liberals in the Democratic Party. Now that the neo-liberals and their tool, the Democratic Party are loosing power, they use similar tactics.
But it's all those nasty, nasty, vile Liberals/Democrats being jerks, fools, and idiots, and not those saintly Conservatives/Republicans. What nonsense.
We are all being tools of the elites and the political parties. So stop please, and use your brains.
Neither party is actually liberal, or conservative, and focusing on the unthinking fanatics like the Teapartiers, or the the SJWs, is doing their work in undermining us, and enriching the elites. If you are an actual Conservative, Moderate, or Liberal, you do not have parties that represent you.
We all have parties masquerading as conservative, and liberal, pretending that they work for us. Maybe, just maybe we should work together using what we have in common, which is the same in most things?
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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O yes, let us not forget those terrible fanatics in the tea party, burning and breaking stuff, beating down the opposition....
"She had yellow hair and she walked funny and she made a noise like... O my God, please don't kill me! "
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We're not demonizing the right.
Trump won the presidency on the basis of justifiable frustration with the current state of the nation. Frustration with mainstream candidates on both sides of the duopoly, the poor results of international treaties and globalization for the average american citizen and disdain for the values of those who seek to cast blanket "oppressor" status without nuance or thought.
Those who support Trump now have the opportunity to lead and see where they can take the nation and the world.
What do they have to riot about anyways?
Trump won the presidency on the basis of justifiable frustration with the current state of the nation. Frustration with mainstream candidates on both sides of the duopoly, the poor results of international treaties and globalization for the average american citizen and disdain for the values of those who seek to cast blanket "oppressor" status without nuance or thought.
Those who support Trump now have the opportunity to lead and see where they can take the nation and the world.
What do they have to riot about anyways?
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It's all part of the same argument which says, CNN and the Huffington post are biased without acknowledging that Fox news and Breibart are also partisan. It's either not very clever or selectively honest.
Sooner or later the wool is going to fall from your eyes and you will realise you are still being screwed, just by the other team this time.
Sooner or later the wool is going to fall from your eyes and you will realise you are still being screwed, just by the other team this time.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.