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Re: Women's March

Post by Fife » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:42 am

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Kath wrote:I continue to be amused by those of you who have no idea why this new president isn't well respected by a large percentage of the country.
I understand why people don't like him. What isn't clear is what the protesters hope to gain. What's the plan? They had lots of slogans on signs. Maybe there isn't one other than to just get their tantrums out in the open.
They aren't protesting a specific government action, like a new war or law. They are protesting Donald Trump, the electoral system that made it possible for his victory, and the people who thought that his words, actions, and opinions weren't disqualifying. Their message is "this is not ok, we have a problem".

I doubt I agree with them on much, but I think the electoral process is quite shitty as well. I would hope if Clinton had won, there would be millions of conservatives willing to march and say the same.

I am please to know that millions of Americans can still get their asses out on the street for some political activity. Better that, than if all of them just sat at their computers and tweeted #ThisSucks.

It's not a "protest," any more than the lead up to the attempted Beer Hall Putsch were "protests."


If you don't think this is a prologue to the real putsch, you just aren't paying attention to what is coming directly from their mouths. The Marxists are intent on immanentizing the Eschaton, out in the open now.



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Re: Women's March

Post by adwinistrator » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:13 am

The Conservative wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote: I understand why people don't like him. What isn't clear is what the protesters hope to gain. What's the plan? They had lots of slogans on signs. Maybe there isn't one other than to just get their tantrums out in the open.
They aren't protesting a specific government action, like a new war or law. They are protesting Donald Trump, the electoral system that made it possible for his victory, and the people who thought that his words, actions, and opinions weren't disqualifying. Their message is "this is not ok, we have a problem".

I doubt I agree with them on much, but I think the electoral process is quite shitty as well. I would hope if Clinton had won, there would be millions of conservatives willing to march and say the same.

I am please to know that millions of Americans can still get their asses out on the street for some political activity. Better that, than if all of them just sat at their computers and tweeted #ThisSucks.

The Electoral did exactly what it was meant to... to keep the minority of states to control what the majority wanted.
I never mentioned the Electoral College, but I'm sure a lot of protesters would think that was the problem.

I consider the two party primary process to be the worst part of the process, especially since they're private organizations that can set whatever rules they feel like. They have a stranglehold on the process, the media, the debates, and the state ballot laws.

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Re: Women's March

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:16 am

adwinistrator wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:
They aren't protesting a specific government action, like a new war or law. They are protesting Donald Trump, the electoral system that made it possible for his victory, and the people who thought that his words, actions, and opinions weren't disqualifying. Their message is "this is not ok, we have a problem".

I doubt I agree with them on much, but I think the electoral process is quite shitty as well. I would hope if Clinton had won, there would be millions of conservatives willing to march and say the same.

I am please to know that millions of Americans can still get their asses out on the street for some political activity. Better that, than if all of them just sat at their computers and tweeted #ThisSucks.

The Electoral did exactly what it was meant to... to keep the minority of states to control what the majority wanted.
I never mentioned the Electoral College, but I'm sure a lot of protesters would think that was the problem.

I consider the two party primary process to be the worst part of the process, especially since they're private organizations that can set whatever rules they feel like. They have a stranglehold on the process, the media, the debates, and the state ballot laws.
The Electoral College is part of the Electoral Process
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Re: Women's March

Post by adwinistrator » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:26 am

The Conservative wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:
The Conservative wrote:

The Electoral did exactly what it was meant to... to keep the minority of states to control what the majority wanted.
I never mentioned the Electoral College, but I'm sure a lot of protesters would think that was the problem.

I consider the two party primary process to be the worst part of the process, especially since they're private organizations that can set whatever rules they feel like. They have a stranglehold on the process, the media, the debates, and the state ballot laws.
The Electoral College is part of the Electoral Process
Yes, it is. As are many other things, like ballot access rules, party primaries, debates, and voting.

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Re: Women's March

Post by Ex-California » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:02 pm

adwinistrator wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:
I never mentioned the Electoral College, but I'm sure a lot of protesters would think that was the problem.

I consider the two party primary process to be the worst part of the process, especially since they're private organizations that can set whatever rules they feel like. They have a stranglehold on the process, the media, the debates, and the state ballot laws.
The Electoral College is part of the Electoral Process
Yes, it is. As are many other things, like ballot access rules, party primaries, debates, and voting.
All of which contribute to our broken and byzantine voting system.

This women's march was a tantrum. Period. It is not a movement and it will not become a movement because the insanity of intersectionalism does nothing but create divisions even within itself instantly.

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1st World Women are the most privileged class in history, as STA said. None of them or their rights are remotely threatened, so it was an anti-Trump rally.

Its ok to call it an anti-Trump rally. There doesn't have to be a reason. Call it your tantrum because you didn't get your way with a woman being elected. Women are encouraged to throw tantrums from childhood through death, so it demonstrative of 1st world female culture.

Of course they threw in the BS about gender equality, LGBT rights, all the intersectionality crap that has destroyed any hope of the current left as a real force in economic politics, but when it comes down to it there's no way any of them would fight for real gender equality because that would mean giving up their upper hand on men
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Re: Women's March

Post by Ex-California » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:04 pm

The Conservative wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote: I understand why people don't like him. What isn't clear is what the protesters hope to gain. What's the plan? They had lots of slogans on signs. Maybe there isn't one other than to just get their tantrums out in the open.
They aren't protesting a specific government action, like a new war or law. They are protesting Donald Trump, the electoral system that made it possible for his victory, and the people who thought that his words, actions, and opinions weren't disqualifying. Their message is "this is not ok, we have a problem".

I doubt I agree with them on much, but I think the electoral process is quite shitty as well. I would hope if Clinton had won, there would be millions of conservatives willing to march and say the same.

I am please to know that millions of Americans can still get their asses out on the street for some political activity. Better that, than if all of them just sat at their computers and tweeted #ThisSucks.

The Electoral did exactly what it was meant to... to keep the minority of states to control what the majority wanted.
Instead it let a minority of the population control what the majority wanted. My preferred candidate won, but its on a technicality. There's no way I will ever support a disenfranchising joke like the Electoral College
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Re: Women's March

Post by K@th » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:12 pm

California wrote: Instead it let a minority of the population control what the majority wanted. My preferred candidate won, but its on a technicality. There's no way I will ever support a disenfranchising joke like the Electoral College
I really think it's disingenuous to call the EC a technicality. Do you really believe either of them would have campaigned the same wsy if the goal was popular vote?

How many people didn't bother to vote because their preferred candidate didn't stand a chance in their state? How many stayed home because there was no chance of their preferred candidate losing their state?

People often vote/don't vote because their vote doesn't matter, in their state. If popular vote was the goal, different people would come out to vote.
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Re: Women's March

Post by Fife » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:13 pm

I look forward to the debates in the constitutional convention for the new free state of California when it comes to their discussions of their own electoral college. Nocal ain't having that Socal trash ruin their brand new penny.

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Re: Women's March

Post by Ex-California » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:46 pm

Kath wrote:
California wrote: Instead it let a minority of the population control what the majority wanted. My preferred candidate won, but its on a technicality. There's no way I will ever support a disenfranchising joke like the Electoral College
I really think it's disingenuous to call the EC a technicality. Do you really believe either of them would have campaigned the same wsy if the goal was popular vote?

How many people didn't bother to vote because their preferred candidate didn't stand a chance in their state? How many stayed home because there was no chance of their preferred candidate losing their state?

People often vote/don't vote because their vote doesn't matter, in their state. If popular vote was the goal, different people would come out to vote.
Everything you just stated is exactly why the EC needs to die.

Although I think you're putting too much credit in the non-voting populace by even assuming they know the EC exists
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Re: Women's March

Post by Ex-California » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:47 pm

Fife wrote:I look forward to the debates in the constitutional convention for the new free state of California when it comes to their discussions of their own electoral college. Nocal ain't having that Socal trash ruin their brand new penny.

:goteam:
We will have a popular vote only.

Once I'm emperor of CA it won't matter anyway
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