Obama bans oil drilling 'permanently' in millions of acres of ocean

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Re: Obama bans oil drilling 'permanently' in millions of acres of ocean

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:15 pm

Yeah, but is Trump going to go to court for the right to drill in expensive and environmentally fragile areas?
Depends how much he is in debt to the oil barons I suppose, maybe that's why he wants to drain the swamp so his oil buddies can drill in it more easily....
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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:19 pm

Haumana wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
"No president has ever rescinded a previous president's permanent withdrawal of offshore areas from oil and gas development."
More of this bullshit about unprecedented, ritual & customs that the Establishment has been crying about already. Yet, when the columns are totalled out they have no underpinning law to point towards. The whole reason Trump was elected was to thumb a nose at the Establishment and their self-serving gentlemen agreements. Fuck em.
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Re: Obama bans oil drilling 'permanently' in millions of acres of ocean

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:24 pm

So you are both happy to risk damaging the Arctic to make the oil guys from the swamp even richer?
Big oil man as secretary of state doesn't seem like draining the swamp to me.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:31 pm

Montegriffo wrote:So you are both happy to risk damaging the Arctic to make the oil guys from the swamp even richer?
Big oil man as secretary of state doesn't seem like draining the swamp to me.
You just said this,
Montegriffo wrote:Not in the North, in the Atlantic.
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Re: Obama bans oil drilling 'permanently' in millions of acres of ocean

Post by Haumana » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:34 pm

Montegriffo wrote:Yeah, but is Trump going to go to court for the right to drill in expensive and environmentally fragile areas?
Depends how much he is in debt to the oil barons I suppose, maybe that's why he wants to drain the swamp so his oil buddies can drill in it more easily....
He doesn't have to go to court unless he is taken to court for performing the duties of his elected office. They are going to have to sue him because he isn't following tradition not because he is breaking a law. They do their best to conflate the two but they are not the same things.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:35 pm

Montegriffo wrote:So you are both happy to risk damaging the Arctic to make the oil guys from the swamp even richer?
Big oil man as secretary of state doesn't seem like draining the swamp to me.
We wouldn't have to drill for oil to power your smart cars if you hippies would quit going into hysterics over nuclear power. In fact your protesting it so hard, forcing us not to make it a political issue, are partly responsible for the unmitigated misery throughout the world via oil sheikh.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:36 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:So you are both happy to risk damaging the Arctic to make the oil guys from the swamp even richer?
Big oil man as secretary of state doesn't seem like draining the swamp to me.
We wouldn't have to drill for oil to power your smart cars if you hippies would quit going into hysterics over nuclear power. In fact your protesting it so hard, forcing us not to make it a political issue, are partly responsible for the unmitigated misery throughout the world via oil sheikh.
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Re: Obama bans oil drilling 'permanently' in millions of acres of ocean

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:38 pm

If you want to slow down fossil fuel consumption, the invent economical electric automobile and train engines. Give us vehicles on par with fossil fuel-based automobiles -- i.e. they should have decent performance and ranges over 300 miles. They should cost about the same.

That's the way to do it right there. We have one corporation trying to do it already, but costs are really high.

You can't solve this with your leftist, totalitarian instincts to control everybody. You have to do it economically.

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Re: Obama bans oil drilling 'permanently' in millions of acres of ocean

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:39 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:So you are both happy to risk damaging the Arctic to make the oil guys from the swamp even richer?
Big oil man as secretary of state doesn't seem like draining the swamp to me.
You just said this,
Montegriffo wrote:Not in the North, in the Atlantic.
About the protected coral regions, the main prohibition is in the Arctic where Obama and Trudeau have made a joint agreement.
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Post by Montegriffo » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:40 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:So you are both happy to risk damaging the Arctic to make the oil guys from the swamp even richer?
Big oil man as secretary of state doesn't seem like draining the swamp to me.
We wouldn't have to drill for oil to power your smart cars if you hippies would quit going into hysterics over nuclear power. In fact your protesting it so hard, forcing us not to make it a political issue, are partly responsible for the unmitigated misery throughout the world via oil sheikh.
I'm not against nuclear power, check Earth matters thread if you don't believe me.
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