What is Mankind's Greatest Invention?

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Montegriffo wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Nonsense, hippy bitch, on this I stand firm. We inspired humanity for probably the first time EVER, revamped scientific knowledge, changed our place in the universe, and did something that will eternally be regarded as "fucking badass". All within a decade-ish.

No guns on the moon, no billboards, just footprints. (and a flag and some trash) That was an all-time Badass Win for humanity, and I won't have it tainted by politics.
Like I said before, it's a national identity thing like us trying to be the first at the poles or raising the flag attop Mt Everest.
You have to remember that every single one of those scientific advances happened right here down on Earth. No reason to assume you needed the space race to acheive them. Necessity is the mother of all invention after all. I just find putting a man on the moon for a few short hours is not a necessity for me, mankind or the future of life on Earth.
Gonna have to agree to disagree on this one my freind.
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In the very short-term, yes, these were nationalistic totems. But these are human achievements.
The poles are a bit different, because as soon as we determined that there WERE poles to the planet, sooner or later, somebody would walk up there. The moon though, was considered completely impossible by a large chunk of humanity - just as Mars is now.

To children learning about our history, on the plains of Erdania Planetia, it will not matter which little Earth tribe got there first. What matters is that on Date X, humans finally got the fuck off the home rock and stood on a new celestial body. There was more infighting, and we almost blew ourselves up, but eventually, we reached a little further... and a little further...

And thank the Ancestors we did, because that asteroid could have wiped us all out in 2108...
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:You have to define the terms.

Greatest Achievement: either the internet or the moon landing.

Thing that separates us from all other animals: fire

Most amazing thing for it's time: the renaissance (advances in art and learning)
Internet is in it's infancy.... results are far from analyzable at this point.

Writing and the Printing Press have to come first in terms of tangible results.

Fire -> already on the slate

Moon landing accomplished very little in a practical sense - almost entirely symbolic
Mostly about Making America Great...

The Renaissance - also a very western construct - where Europe went from being a backwater to a player...
On the grand scale of things this doesn't rank above other similar flourishings in say the Middle East or China... each having Golden Ages that brought great discoveries - the Alphabet, Math advances, Numeracy (the concept of zero), Gunpowder etc.
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Can't disagree with your sentiment at all Grumps. Just here to remind you that at the time the arms race and the space race were one and the same thing. Now if the Soviets and the USA had worked together and shaken hands in the sea of tranquility and thus ended the cold war, those far of aliens would have been truely impressed and might even considered us a safe enough place to visit on their hols in 1970.
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Montegriffo wrote:Can't disagree with your sentiment at all Grumps. Just here to remind you that at the time the arms race and the space race were one and the same thing. Now if the Soviets and the USA had worked together and shaken hands in the sea of tranquility and thus ended the cold war, those far of aliens would have been truely impressed and might even considered us a safe enough place to visit on their hols in 1970.
I could say the same about most inventions... Fire - protection from the wolf/bear/bugs/everything trying to kill you.
Steel - better swords for killing
Iron, bronze, same same...

Conflict breeds invention - a Truth, if there ever was one. Sure, the root cause for the Landings were in the Cold War, but it was a pretty good alternative to just blowing up the world.
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I'd have to go with creating Tools. As soon as we started creating tools, we started using technology and set ourselves on this path where we can argue about things on the internet. It's beautiful.
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skankhunt42 wrote:I'd have to go with creating Tools. As soon as we started creating tools, we started using technology and set ourselves on this path where we can argue about things on the internet. It's beautiful.
Monkeys and dolphins (and others) do that too.

http://www.livescience.com/55350-monkey ... tools.html
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
skankhunt42 wrote:I'd have to go with creating Tools. As soon as we started creating tools, we started using technology and set ourselves on this path where we can argue about things on the internet. It's beautiful.
Monkeys and dolphins (and others) do that too.

http://www.livescience.com/55350-monkey ... tools.html
Yea, but our tools are better :mrgreen: (Pulls a Dan Carlin, takes his ball and goes home).
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skankhunt42 wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
skankhunt42 wrote:I'd have to go with creating Tools. As soon as we started creating tools, we started using technology and set ourselves on this path where we can argue about things on the internet. It's beautiful.
Monkeys and dolphins (and others) do that too.

http://www.livescience.com/55350-monkey ... tools.html
Yea, but our tools are better :mrgreen: (Pulls a Dan Carlin, takes his ball and goes home).
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Yea, I'm being sarcastic. I guess I'll go with The Space Shuttle, that wasn't easy yo.
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skankhunt42 wrote: I guess I'll go with The Space Shuttle, that wasn't easy yo.
The Space Shuttle was man's greatest invention?

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