Trump's 35% Tax (Penalty) On Ex-Pat Mfg

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Post by K@th » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:28 pm

Capps - you are betting a whole lot on the "over-promise/under-deliver" strategy that you assume Trump is playing.

If this truly is his strategy, nobody will take him seriously about anything he says.
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Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:41 pm

Kath wrote:Capps - you are betting a whole lot on the "over-promise/under-deliver" strategy that you assume Trump is playing.

If this truly is his strategy, nobody will take him seriously about anything he says.
Yet they have and continue to give, a ton of attention to his outrageous opening offers, despite repeated proof that this is what he is doing, and him even admitting as much in The Art of the Deal. It's been working for him for decades. He's moderated on pretty much every outrageous opening offer he's made while campaigning, and he's not going to stop doing that because it is continuing to work despite his extensive track record of using this tactic throughout his career to achieve to greater negotiation leverage.

Trump is a good salesman, and always has been, people aren't just waking up to this now, this has been baked into the cake forever and his sales pitches still often work regardless of the fact the people know he's making a sales pitch. Good salesmen know how to get around that hitch, if Trump didn't know how to do that and at quite a high level, then he wouldn't be President-Elect and he wouldn't be a multi-billionaire, real-estate mogul, or reality tv star, either. You underestimate Donald Trump's persuasiveness.
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Re: Trump's 35% Tax (Penalty) On Ex-Pat Mfg

Post by The Conservative » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:39 pm

For me it's this... you want to try to skirt the taxes and fees that you obtain working in the US, you will pay a price equal or greater for working outside of the US. A Chinese company should not be penalized as heavily, if it's a pure Chinese company, but a US company working in China... fuck that noise.
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Post by Zlaxer » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:19 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Taxing business is never a good idea but taxing people is.

As I've stated before: require businesses to distribute profits every year then tax the recipients - at high progressive rates.

Not a bad idea at all....but....makes it difficult for business to plan for long term projects...or to build savings to acquire expensive assets....perhaps allow them to deposit money into an account that can't be used for salaries or bonuses?

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Post by Paulo » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:14 pm

Kath wrote:Capps - you are betting a whole lot on the "over-promise/under-deliver" strategy that you assume Trump is playing.

If this truly is his strategy, nobody will take him seriously about anything he says.

Did anyone take him seriously? seriously? :lol:

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Post by Martin Hash » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:36 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Taxing business is never a good idea but taxing people is.

As I've stated before: require businesses to distribute profits every year then tax the recipients - at high progressive rates.

Not a bad idea at all....but....makes it difficult for business to plan for long term projects...or to build savings to acquire expensive assets....perhaps allow them to deposit money into an account that can't be used for salaries or bonuses?
Business doesn't need to stockpile cash, that's what banks are for. And if the venture is so risky that banks won't loan then that's what investors are for. There is NO REASON for businesses to hold money except to cheat it out of its minority shareholders & avoid taxation through legal maneuvering.
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Post by SilverEagle » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:43 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Taxing business is never a good idea but taxing people is.

As I've stated before: require businesses to distribute profits every year then tax the recipients - at high progressive rates.

Not a bad idea at all....but....makes it difficult for business to plan for long term projects...or to build savings to acquire expensive assets....perhaps allow them to deposit money into an account that can't be used for salaries or bonuses?
Business doesn't need to stockpile cash, that's what banks are for. And if the venture is so risky that banks won't loan then that's what investors are for. There is NO REASON for businesses to hold money except to cheat it out of its minority shareholders & avoid taxation through legal maneuvering.
And cheating it's employees. Lets not forget that.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:43 pm

Paulo wrote:
Kath wrote:Capps - you are betting a whole lot on the "over-promise/under-deliver" strategy that you assume Trump is playing.

If this truly is his strategy, nobody will take him seriously about anything he says.

Did anyone take him seriously? seriously? :lol:
I forgot. Your president got impeached. You get your first woman president, and surprise surprise, she's just as corrupt as anyone else. Then along comes Donald to twist the spear in your lefty sacred cow by defeating her majesty. That's why Paulo's so upset.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:23 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
kybkh wrote:Trumps series of tweets today warning all manufacturers that there will be a 35% tax on products which were once made in the US and now being made overseas is something of legends.

The enemies he will make with such a policy will be some of the most powerful in the world.
Who cares. It's time to tear down this broken global system! Fuck the super rich. I'm sure everyone here is Anti Slavery and globalism is legalized slavery. We get our gizmos dirt cheap in the 1st world off the backs of slave labor. It has to STOP!
.... and that will be accomplished by electing a super rich guy that thrives on hyperbole. I see nothing wrong with this plan.
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