Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Smitty-48]

The Biden Admin is incapable of leading Western Nations. They are constantly lying and trying to dishonestly leverage allies into doing things they are not willing to do.

The entire Mig-29 thing to Ukraine was a lie by the US. Poland called their bluff, and sent the planes to NATO. The US folded, not willing to be the first to send aircraft to the Ukraine.

Global leaders on all sides look incompetent

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ld-war-iii

so Poland is sending the MiG's to Ramstein, and Biden is refusing to send them on to Ukraine ?

[The Conservative]

Brent crude already at $130 USD / barrel

COVID didn’t bring down Capitalism, hard as they tried, but a phony war might.

corrections are a good thing

This is not a correction, this is an abuse of a system.

[Smitty-48]

all sources I'm seeing are saying that Poland is handing the MiG's over to the the US at Ramstiem

and the US is going to hand the MiG's over to Ukraine

that's as of 3 hours ago

[C-Mag]

The Biden Admin is incapable of leading Western Nations. They are constantly lying and trying to dishonestly leverage allies into doing things they are not willing to do.

The entire Mig-29 thing to Ukraine was a lie by the US. Poland called their bluff, and sent the planes to NATO. The US folded, not willing to be the first to send aircraft to the Ukraine.

Global leaders on all sides look incompetent

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ld-war-iii

so Poland is sending the MiG's to Ramstein, and Biden is refusing to send them on to Ukraine ?

The US is trying to hang the responsibility on Poland

Statement by Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby on Security Assistance to Ukraine
MARCH 8, 2022

We are now in contact with the Polish government following the statement issued today. As we have said, the decision about whether to transfer Polish-owned planes to Ukraine is ultimately one for the Polish government. We will continue consulting with our Allies and partners about our ongoing security assistance to Ukraine, because, in fact, Poland's proposal shows just some of the complexities this issue presents. The prospect of fighter jets "at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America" departing from a U.S./NATO base in Germany to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over Ukraine raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance. It is simply not clear to us that there is a substantive rationale for it. We will continue to consult with Poland and our other NATO allies about this issue and the difficult logistical challenges it presents, but we do not believe Poland's proposal is a tenable one.

[Smitty-48]

The Biden Admin is incapable of leading Western Nations. They are constantly lying and trying to dishonestly leverage allies into doing things they are not willing to do.

The entire Mig-29 thing to Ukraine was a lie by the US. Poland called their bluff, and sent the planes to NATO. The US folded, not willing to be the first to send aircraft to the Ukraine.

Global leaders on all sides look incompetent

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ld-war-iii

so Poland is sending the MiG's to Ramstein, and Biden is refusing to send them on to Ukraine ?

The US is trying to hang the responsibility on Poland

Statement by Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby on Security Assistance to Ukraine
MARCH 8, 2022

We are now in contact with the Polish government following the statement issued today. As we have said, the decision about whether to transfer Polish-owned planes to Ukraine is ultimately one for the Polish government. We will continue consulting with our Allies and partners about our ongoing security assistance to Ukraine, because, in fact, Poland's proposal shows just some of the complexities this issue presents. The prospect of fighter jets "at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America" departing from a U.S./NATO base in Germany to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over Ukraine raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance. It is simply not clear to us that there is a substantive rationale for it. We will continue to consult with Poland and our other NATO allies about this issue and the difficult logistical challenges it presents, but we do not believe Poland's proposal is a tenable one.

oic

see, Article V is not a shield protecting us as most people are assuming

because these governments within NATO are all incompetent in the extreme

with no warfighting experience, no strategic doctrine, no plan, no idea what they are doing

but since they are in the process of trying to bring Russia to its knees by economic warfare

I would guess that the Russian submarines are crossing the G-I-UK Gap

there's no Article V line in the ocean

[C-Mag]

So in the course of today we found out the US admitted to funding Biolabs in the Ukraine and that they were working to keep them out of the hands of Russia. Plus we found out the Biden Admin was bluffing about sending aircraft to support Ukraine.

Banner day, Let's go Brandon

[Smitty-48]

but they are still applying massive leverage against the Russian economy to bring it to its knees

the same way America was applying leverage to the Japanese economy just before Pearl Harbor

what could possibly go wrong ?

Article V has got this

[Smitty-48]

I can't even see what Russia has to lose at this point when they do attack Article V

NATO is obviously not going to do much about it even then

probably just more sanctions

[C-Mag]

The Wall Street Journal reported:

The White House unsuccessfully tried to arrange calls between President Biden and the de facto leaders of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates as the U.S. was working to build international support for Ukraine and contain a surge in oil prices, said Middle East and U.S. officials.

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and the U.A.E.’s Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al Nahyan both declined U.S. requests to speak to Mr. Biden in recent weeks, the officials said, as Saudi and Emirati officials have become more vocal in recent weeks in their criticism of American policy in the Gulf.


No one respects the US Government

[SuburbanFarmer]

Brandon wanted Poland to send the jets. Poland said ‘nope, you can start WW3 on your own, assholes’.

That’s my take anyway.