The diet of Metas - Ketogenic

[Martin Hash]

Dude, stop it.

[DBTrek]

Does not compromise muscle mass:

To study the effect of chronic ketosis on exercise performance in endurance-trained humans, five well-trained cyclists were fed a eucaloric balanced diet (EBD) for one week providing 35-50 kcal/kg/d, 1.75 g protein/kg/d and the remainder of kilocalories as two-thirds carbohydrate (CHO) and one-third fat. This was followed by four weeks of a eucaloric ketogenic diet (EKD), isocaloric and isonitrogenous with the EBD but providing less than 20 g CHO daily. Both diets were appropriately supplemented to meet the recommended daily allowances for vitamins and minerals. Pedal ergometer testing of maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max) was unchanged between the control week (EBD-1) and week 3 of the ketogenic diet (EKD-3). The mean ergometer endurance time for continuous exercise to exhaustion (ENDUR) at 62%-64% of VO2max was 147 minutes at EBD-1 and 151 minutes at EKD-4. The ENDUR steady-state RQ dropped from 0.83 to 0.72 (P less than 0.01) from EBD-1 to EKD-4. In agreement with this were a three-fold drop in glucose oxidation (from 15.1 to 5.1 mg/kg/min, P less than 0.05) and a four-fold reduction in muscle glycogen use (0.61 to 0.13 mmol/kg/min, P less than 0.01). Neither clinical nor biochemical evidence of hypoglycemia was observed during ENDUR at EKD-4. These results indicate that aerobic endurance exercise by well-trained cyclists was not compromised by four weeks of ketosis. This was accomplished by a dramatic physiologic adaptation that conserved limited carbohydrate stores (both glucose and muscle glycogen) and made fat the predominant muscle substrate at this submaximal power level.

Switch meats for bodybuilding

Traditionally, bodybuilders opt to get their protein from tuna and lean meats such as chicken breast. However, on a diet like this, you should switch to darker meats and oily fish. Eating salmon, chicken thighs, lamb, and lean beef allows you to get your protein and fat in one source.
The last issue is your consumption of “residual” carbohydrates—the carbs you’re not even aware you’re eating, like those in nuts and meal-replacement shakes. It’s OK to have some nuts, but you should rely more on other fat sources that are carb-free like oils and cheeses. Remember that meal replacement shakes and protein shakes are not the same. The typical meal-replacement powder contains up to half your day’s intake of carbs. Instead, opt for a scoop of regular protein powder after your workout. Make these changes and you’ll see your six-pack soon enough.

A pro body-building diet

The ketogenic diet is among the fastest fat-loss diets available, because you can eat just about as much as you want throughout the day so long as you stick to the foods on the program. Some professional bodybuilders use ketosis as their gauge to determine the success of their diet.

Like any tool, there are wise uses and unwise uses.
I don't body-build myself, but if that's your thing it can be done while in ketosis.

[doc_loliday]

Eating carbs puts me in a food coma, almost immediately and I can experience not being in a food coma simply by not eating carbs. Surely, some of the alertness people speak of is due to this effect, and not being in ketosis, right?

[Martin Hash]

"Food coma" is the insulin release, almost always bad. (But worse if you have no insulin.)

[Okeefenokee]

I'm still leaning on the side of low carb diet. I might not be in ketosis, proper, I still drink, but since I made a dramatic cut in carbs I can recognize a dramatic impact in how I feel when I eat a high carb meal.

I dropped twenty pounds in a month once I started limiting carbs. Count me in the, high carb diet is not good for you, column.

[apeman]

I want to try this now. Testimonials from DB, AB, Okee and Martin is enough for me, period.

A main concern is that my job is super stressful and demanding, so I'm worried about crashing mid-week.

I also drink 2-4 beers/night for the most part, but can stop on a whim, so this would be good for me all around.

. In fact, I'd say ALL of my patients don't give a fuck about those things, so all of my patients should be Keto. (My overweight patients: super thin people should not be Keto.)

So my question: I am 5'10'' 175lbs, I lift 3x/week, I go to yoga 2x week (it is a brutal studio, annihilates me) and I am generally active (biking, running, bball, hiking, climbing)

Am I an appropriate subject?

[Speaker to Animals]

If all you did was cut out the beer, with that lifestyle, you'd be developing six pack abs in a few months.

[Martin Hash]

I want to try this now. Testimonials from DB, AB, Okee and Martin is enough for me, period.

A main concern is that my job is super stressful and demanding, so I'm worried about crashing mid-week.

I also drink 2-4 beers/night for the most part, but can stop on a whim, so this would be good for me all around.

. In fact, I'd say ALL of my patients don't give a fuck about those things, so all of my patients should be Keto. (My overweight patients: super thin people should not be Keto.)

So my question: I am 5'10'' 175lbs, I lift 3x/week, I go to yoga 2x week (it is a brutal studio, annihilates me) and I am generally active (biking, running, bball, hiking, climbing)

Am I an appropriate subject?

You are at the extreme edge of healthy BMI but still... You would be doing Keto for the superhuman aspect of it, which is less insulin. There is much more of a chance of you crashing after the insulin rush that comes from a candy bar than a 175 lbs muscular guy not getting enough glucose.

[apeman]

I still have a small amount of extra weight on my waist from beer -- which I have never remotely given a shit about -- but nonetheless, I do have some weight I could lose.

And yeah, I want to superhuman aspect, sometimes after work I am too shredded to continue teaching myself guitar, or read dense material, or to embark on a new project, I know I could be better.

[Speaker to Animals]

Four beers is at least 400 calories. Alcohol is not great for cognitive function either. If you are drinking four beers after work every day, then you are training your brain to expect that kind of functioning after work each day.

A lot of the carbs in a beer, especially the alcohol, just go to fat.