Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

[C-Mag]

Water is my big problem. I could walk down to the river and filter it, but that's a good 3/4 mile or so.

Your a smart guy, so you've considered your other options like rain catchment.

Here's my experience on water demand for different situations, for each person.

Austere camping with moderate activity in moderate temps. Bare Minimum 1 gallon a day just to maintain health. With little of that to be used for cooking. Weather, activity and cooking are multipliers. Almost nothing for sanitation.

Comfortable camp or no power in the house situation - Drinking, Cooking, minor sanitation (dishes and a bitch bath) Min. 3-4 gallons a day.

Good Living in remote camp or power down situation - The basics, plus a small solar heated shower twice per week and washing socks, underwear and T shirt once a week. 10 gallons a day.

Doing the math, how does a family of 4 meet their water needs daily when they are going to need 10 to 20 gallons per day, or 100 to 150 pounds of water every day ?

[Okeefenokee]

upgraded ram pump,



do it in the first video, dude,

oh ffs, a third video?

[C-Mag]

Speaker to Animals, I'm calling you out.
I saw in another thread you post that you are getting prepped for Nuclear War. Make us smart on what needs to be done.

[Speaker to Animals]

Speaker to Animals, I'm calling you out.
I saw in another thread you post that you are getting prepped for Nuclear War. Make us smart on what needs to be done.

Read that book I linked in here (NWSS) first.

Biggest problem for most people is fresh water. You need to figure out how to remove radiation from water.

That said, a lot of us won't be in an area that is radiated, but it's worth trying to figure out how to do this.

Other than that, you do a lot of the normal prepping things, but add a survey meter, dose meters, and potassium iodide. Learn how to make an air filter and how to dig an expedient shelter.

It's really not that hard. In the aftermath of a nuclear war, most people who don't live in cities will die from hunger and conflict in the aftermath, not the nuclear exchange itself. So normal prepping strategies are key.


My only caveat to all this.. the fact is the community is going to take your shit unless you live pretty remote. One thing I have come to accept is there exists a point beyond which prepping is just a waste of time. People will form up in expedient "governments", declare you are hording, and take your preps.

The ideal solution to this is to live in a smaller community in a defensible location, at least three days march from any major population center (especially those occupied by the typical democrat voter), and then start building your community beforehand. The most vital prep, in my opinion, is building the community now before you need it in the aftermath of something like this. Otherwise, the other preps are kind of useless for the real deal. This is already happening in the tribalist and (to some extent) alt-right communities (mostly in the Pacific Northwest from what I understand).



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BTW.. water is NOT as easy as some of you might think if the water source is radiated. Collecting water from the sky is a no-go as well. I see somebody mentioned alcohol production as a good way to barter.. in the aftermath of a nuclear exchange, water purification will be worth more than gold.

[C-Mag]

Speaker to Animals, I'm calling you out.
I saw in another thread you post that you are getting prepped for Nuclear War. Make us smart on what needs to be done.

Read that book I linked in here (NWSS) first.

Biggest problem for most people is fresh water. You need to figure out how to remove radiation from water.

That said, a lot of us won't be in an area that is radiated, but it's worth trying to figure out how to do this.

Other than that, you do a lot of the normal prepping things, but add a survey meter, dose meters, and potassium iodide. Learn how to make an air filter and how to dig an expedient shelter.

It's really not that hard. In the aftermath of a nuclear war, most people who don't live in cities will die from hunger and conflict in the aftermath, not the nuclear exchange itself. So normal prepping strategies are key.


My only caveat to all this.. the fact is the community is going to take your shit unless you live pretty remote. One thing I have come to accept is there exists a point beyond which prepping is just a waste of time. People will form up in expedient "governments", declare you are hording, and take your preps.

The ideal solution to this is to live in a smaller community in a defensible location, at least three days march from any major population center (especially those occupied by the typical democrat voter), and then start building your community beforehand.



edit:

BTW.. water is NOT as easy as some of you might think if the water source is radiated. Collecting water from the sky is a no-go as well. I see somebody mentioned alcohol production as a good way to barter.. in the aftermath of a nuclear exchange, water purification will be worth more than gold.

I have a couple wells. One is the shallow original well with the old timey cast iron hand pump. Water Depth 20 ft. The other is 100 feet deep with the electric pump sitting at 60 feet. How safe are wells for fresh water?

Who do you think are going to hit us? Russia, North Korea or other.

If North Korea, basic understanding is that they are not to the ICBM stage, but they could hit us with a 'One Second After' Strike from container ships. If North Korea, what are their best targets in the US ?

[Speaker to Animals]

Speaker to Animals, I'm calling you out.
I saw in another thread you post that you are getting prepped for Nuclear War. Make us smart on what needs to be done.

Read that book I linked in here (NWSS) first.

Biggest problem for most people is fresh water. You need to figure out how to remove radiation from water.

That said, a lot of us won't be in an area that is radiated, but it's worth trying to figure out how to do this.

Other than that, you do a lot of the normal prepping things, but add a survey meter, dose meters, and potassium iodide. Learn how to make an air filter and how to dig an expedient shelter.

It's really not that hard. In the aftermath of a nuclear war, most people who don't live in cities will die from hunger and conflict in the aftermath, not the nuclear exchange itself. So normal prepping strategies are key.


My only caveat to all this.. the fact is the community is going to take your shit unless you live pretty remote. One thing I have come to accept is there exists a point beyond which prepping is just a waste of time. People will form up in expedient "governments", declare you are hording, and take your preps.

The ideal solution to this is to live in a smaller community in a defensible location, at least three days march from any major population center (especially those occupied by the typical democrat voter), and then start building your community beforehand.



edit:

BTW.. water is NOT as easy as some of you might think if the water source is radiated. Collecting water from the sky is a no-go as well. I see somebody mentioned alcohol production as a good way to barter.. in the aftermath of a nuclear exchange, water purification will be worth more than gold.

I have a couple wells. One is the shallow original well with the old timey cast iron hand pump. Water Depth 20 ft. The other is 100 feet deep with the electric pump sitting at 60 feet. How safe are wells for fresh water?

Who do you think are going to hit us? Russia, North Korea or other.

If North Korea, basic understanding is that they are not to the ICBM stage, but they could hit us with a 'One Second After' Strike from container ships. If North Korea, what are their best targets in the US ?

I am not sure about wells, but I assume most aquifers in an affected region wold get contaminated through the same system by which they are refreshed.

As far as the nature of the threat, that's mainly Russia and China unless you live in a large city. I would be more concerned about civil conflict drawing in Russia. It's already happening to some extent. People are already aligning with the Russian government against our federal government.

[C-Mag]

I'm kind of numb to the Nuclear Apocalypse. I grew up in the shadows of missile silos and we all kind of took the attitude that if it happened we were F'd. Also, I've worked in contaminated environments for work, like Asbestos and Lead Paint areas. Trying to survive an extended period in a contaminated world would be kind of insane to even try.

Now, that being said. Using Chernobyl as an example. If you can avoid the immediate impact and heavy exposure zone it appears to be survivable.

[Speaker to Animals]

I'm kind of numb to the Nuclear Apocalypse. I grew up in the shadows of missile silos and we all kind of took the attitude that if it happened we were F'd. Also, I've worked in contaminated environments for work, like Asbestos and Lead Paint areas. Trying to survive an extended period in a contaminated world would be kind of insane to even try.

Now, that being said. Using Chernobyl as an example. If you can avoid the immediate impact and heavy exposure zone it appears to be survivable.

A nuclear war is quite survivable. You main problem will be democrats, honestly. They have only a few days supply of food and no preps. These are people who think they have a "right" to a freshly stocked Whole Foods. It won't go well for them.

[DBTrek]

This graphene filter could make it cheaper to drink seawater
http://www.popsci.com/graphene-filtration-desalination

[SuburbanFarmer]

Speaker to Animals, I'm calling you out.
I saw in another thread you post that you are getting prepped for Nuclear War. Make us smart on what needs to be done.

Read that book I linked in here (NWSS) first.

Biggest problem for most people is fresh water. You need to figure out how to remove radiation from water.

That said, a lot of us won't be in an area that is radiated, but it's worth trying to figure out how to do this.

Other than that, you do a lot of the normal prepping things, but add a survey meter, dose meters, and potassium iodide. Learn how to make an air filter and how to dig an expedient shelter.

It's really not that hard. In the aftermath of a nuclear war, most people who don't live in cities will die from hunger and conflict in the aftermath, not the nuclear exchange itself. So normal prepping strategies are key.


My only caveat to all this.. the fact is the community is going to take your shit unless you live pretty remote. One thing I have come to accept is there exists a point beyond which prepping is just a waste of time. People will form up in expedient "governments", declare you are hording, and take your preps.

The ideal solution to this is to live in a smaller community in a defensible location, at least three days march from any major population center (especially those occupied by the typical democrat voter), and then start building your community beforehand.



edit:

BTW.. water is NOT as easy as some of you might think if the water source is radiated. Collecting water from the sky is a no-go as well. I see somebody mentioned alcohol production as a good way to barter.. in the aftermath of a nuclear exchange, water purification will be worth more than gold.

I have a couple wells. One is the shallow original well with the old timey cast iron hand pump. Water Depth 20 ft. The other is 100 feet deep with the electric pump sitting at 60 feet. How safe are wells for fresh water?

Who do you think are going to hit us? Russia, North Korea or other.

If North Korea, basic understanding is that they are not to the ICBM stage, but they could hit us with a 'One Second After' Strike from container ships. If North Korea, what are their best targets in the US ?

If Russia, it won't matter how you prepped, you're dead. If NK, you're dealing with economic collapse, and some crazy fluctuations from whatever us city they managed to hit.