The Left Does not Reason

[C-Mag]

Except in the south you ignorant fuck.

Except not you ignorant fuck. Its a myth.

How is that a myth? Aside from everything else, the Solid South was Democratic from the end of Reconstruction to the 1970s. For the last 40 years it's been Republican.

The most common explanation for that shift is the Democratic Party's support via legislation of the civil rights struggle. President Johnson is quoted as saying after the Civil Rights legislation "we've lost the South for a generation." This was followed by President Nixon's Southern Strategy to get Southerns to vote Republican. Unfortunately by not only advocating law and order, but also racism. It worked.

Aside from saying repeatedly that it all a myth, and insulting people, you have not offered any explanation, nevermind evidence.

Not true. Look at the maps. The south split all the time. The landslides of Nixon 72 and Reagan are indicative of anything, they won most all the country. Otherwise on George W Bush won the south, the rest the south split to the Dems or others.

[C-Mag]

I was just outlining how the Republicans went from big gov to small gov, I'm not trying to argue policy verse personnel. I don't even think those are mutually exclusive.

When I think about it, it''s not surprising that the South, which was defeated by the Federal government, would always be represented by the party of small government. In any case, I only claim that it is regional culture that defines the parties which control (or rather caters to) them, not the other way around. It's plain to see that the spirit of the 1860s Democrats is alive and well in the Southern Republicans of today.

Just to put a point on it, if the Democrat party is the same as then, why don't those modern confederate flag wavers vote Democrat so that the South will rise again? Why do they look to the Republican party for their leadership, the ones you claim destroyed their way of life?

I see a much more complex South in the voting record. And I think GOP makes an excellent point that if the South is agaist big government why do the vote for big government all the time ? Robert(Cyclops) Byrd of WV is a prime example. People stuck with the Democrat for over 60 years.


The Dems held the south through FDR in 44.
In 48 many in the south started looking for a different party, Florida went GOP, that continued through 68
there were several 3rd parties that gained a lot of attention over that 20 year span
Then in 72 Nixon won in a landslide, pretty much the whole county, over 500 electoral votes
In 76 the south went back to the Dems
in 80 and 84 Reagan won landslides again, probably more a view of how bad the Dems were
in 92 and 96 the Dems and GOP split the south
W won the south in 00 and 04
The south has not been as nearly monolithic in voting as it is portrayed

People will make arguments about this Dixiecrat switch, but that is a myth. Also when you look at who held the Governor seats in these states you see a much different picture. The GOP didn't hold a majority of Governors in the South until 1996. I don't see where there was some magical switch.

Just because Nixon kicked Dems ass in 1972, doesn't mean there was a switch of ideology. Nixon won 49 states.
Then what am I to believe about 1976-1980 when Carter swept the South and the Democrats held 79% of the governor seats ?


I'm not saying the Democrats are the same, but what I do see out of Democrat party that has never changed is there hatred for personal Liberty. The Democrats hold people down all throughout their history and stifle personal liberty.

[C-Mag]

When I think about it, it''s not surprising that the South, which was defeated by the Federal government, would always be represented by the party of small government. In any case, I only claim that it is regional culture that defines the parties which control (or rather caters to) them, not the other way around. It's plain to see that the spirit of the 1860s Democrats is alive and well in the Southern Republicans of today.

Good response, I will get back to you tomorrow.

No it is not, it is bullshit. If the South was so small government why did the support the New Deal or the Great Society even today most southern republicans are the big government republicans. This is utter shit.

Dude, you make a great point about the New Deal and Great Society, but I can appreciate someones pov even if I don't agree with it.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's amusing when they argue that the parties switched in the 1970s while simultaneously taking credit for the New Deal. How dare they co-opt the work of the great arch-Conservative FDR.

[clubgop]

Except not you ignorant fuck. Its a myth.

How is that a myth? Aside from everything else, the Solid South was Democratic from the end of Reconstruction to the 1970s. For the last 40 years it's been Republican.

The most common explanation for that shift is the Democratic Party's support via legislation of the civil rights struggle. President Johnson is quoted as saying after the Civil Rights legislation "we've lost the South for a generation." This was followed by President Nixon's Southern Strategy to get Southerns to vote Republican. Unfortunately by not only advocating law and order, but also racism. It worked.

Aside from saying repeatedly that it all a myth, and insulting people, you have not offered any explanation, nevermind evidence.

Not true. Look at the maps. The south split all the time. The landslides of Nixon 72 and Reagan are indicative of anything, they won most all the country. Otherwise on George W Bush won the south, the rest the south split to the Dems or others.

Look no response, this is like when I read Moneyball. Im 23 years old stuck in between Uzbekistan and Afghanistan with a lot of down time on my hands and here is this book with facts and figures basically telling me almost everything I believed about the game I loved and was obsessed with was bullshit. It blew my mind, I had to read everything about it I could get my hands. Others reacted not so openly, like a 6 year old violenty reacting to the news that Santa aint real. This is what passes for conventional wisdom.



Conclusion: the south is racist



Conclusion: the south is racist



Conclusion: the south is racist

This quote sums it up.

It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so. -Ronald Reagan

[C-Mag]

Conclusion: the south is racist

Conclusion: the south is racist

Conclusion: the south is racist

This quote sums it up.

It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so. -Ronald Reagan

I don't see the party switch theory being able to be held up with data. I'm reminded of our recent election. The same people that voted for BHO and put him in office in the Rust Belt, put Trump in office. Did the party's platform change dramatically between 2012 and 2016 ? Did these people in the Rust belt suddenly become racist after voting for BHO twice ? What happened.

It appears to be some kind of an excuse to explain a massive loss.

[clubgop]

Good response, I will get back to you tomorrow.

No it is not, it is bullshit. If the South was so small government why did the support the New Deal or the Great Society even today most southern republicans are the big government republicans. This is utter shit.

Dude, you make a great point about the New Deal and Great Society, but I can appreciate someones pov even if I don't agree with it.

Nope, if there was this bog undeniable switch thats common knowledge they must point to a single year or election cycle when this supposed switch occur. I mean it has to present somewhere in Governors? Senators? Surely they can demonstrate this. Show me on the doll where the "solid south" touched you.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's easier just to point out they are in contradiction when they simultaneously claim credit for the New Deal and claim the parties switched in the 1970s. You can't have both.

[C-Mag]

It's easier just to point out they are in contradiction when they simultaneously claim credit for the New Deal and claim the parties switched in the 1970s. You can't have both.

That is because the Democrats are making excuses for sucking. Currently the Democrats and their Liberal, Lefty allies are creating their excuse for losing to Trump. The country suddenly became hateful, racist and misogynist.

Same, same.

[apeman]

Look no response, this is like when I read Moneyball. Im 23 years old stuck in between Uzbekistan and Afghanistan with a lot of down time on my hands and here is this book with facts and figures basically telling me almost everything I believed about the game I loved and was obsessed with was bullshit. It blew my mind, I had to read everything about it I could get my hands. Others reacted not so openly, like a 6 year old violenty reacting to the news that Santa aint real. This is what passes for conventional wisdom.

Superb